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In his own words..........

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pabar, he is saying that HE wastes a couple of hours a day on this wacko right wing site, therefore he is predicting what WE wouldn't have the ballz to go to a left wing wacko site.  Before I got here and several others like PGP, woody and GrizzFan, this site WAS a left wing wacko site.

All of his name-calling is a little over the edge.  joisey told me once that people tune you out when you start all the name-calling in one big dose.  joisey taught me to employ the "insult that you didn't know was an insult", ploy

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Sounds like chumming to me.........
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I don't know about the rest of you, but since early November, I have enjoyed coming home, sitting in my easy chair with an iced tea and bag of chips and watching the libtards meltdown on the nightly news. I used to pay good money for this type of entertainment. The spoiled children libtards have trashed the house and the adults are now home and there is hell to pay. Watching them cry and throw a tantrum is freaking hilarious!
As for the college scene, someone once said that going to Berkley is like going threw a sewer in a glass bottom boat. The view is the same. Lot of BamaCF floating around.
Bama, is "CF" stand for corn in the floater?

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uwApologist (someone needs to apologize for you), keepinitreal, The Narrator:

Every one of you are the very worst of America. You believe you are superior to blacks and immigrants and women and libtards, and you are in fact pathetic angry simpletons. Period.

I engage with people who are genuine and who contribute something of value to the discourse, not a bunch of wacko right wing extremists. When one of you losers decides to waste a couple hours a day on some wacko left wing site where there are no reasonable humans, only crazies, then criticize me for not wasting my time on loonies like y'all. I could literally type your responses for you. Boring. 

Now go investigate the child trafficking ring in the pizza place or the masses of serial rapist immigrants or something. Oh and Narrator, I would dearly love to get in your whiney, feminine little face.

nmm nmm nmm salty!
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Our brilliant president said this yesterday:

Trump:
‘People don’t realize, you know, the Civil War, if you think about it, why? People don’t ask that question, but why was there the Civil War? Why could that one not have been worked out?’

‘I mean had Andrew Jackson been a little later you wouldn’t have had the Civil War. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart. He was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War, he said, “There’s no reason for this.” ’


Andrew Jackson of course, owned 145 slaves and died in 1845, 16 years before the start of the Civil War.  [Shaking my head, rolling my eyes].  At least he didn't say "He's been doing a tremendous job", like he said about Frederick Douglass, or "He's a friend of mine, a great friend of mine" like he said about Pavarotti (whose been dead 11 years, and whose widow guffawed at trump's lie). 

Now we knew that Donald loves him some Andrew Jackson. Well actually he doesn't know crap about Andrew Jackson or any other part of history, but Bannon and the white supremacist filth informed Trump that he is supposed to be a fan of Andrew Jackson, that his base would like that. But who knew Andrew Jackson was angry about the Civil War that happened 16 years after he was dead. Miracles. 

It is truly pathetic that this buffoon is president. Bye now.


BTW: Quick read of Andrew Jackson's wikipedia page and you to will learn that Jackson skillfully avoided a civil war in 1832.  South Carolina was upset over the Tariff of Abominations and put in motion plans to secede from the union.  That tariff was 62% tax on 92% of the goods traded.  The tariff was designed to protect United States manufacturers, all in northern states, from much cheaper imports that were flooding into the US at the time.  South Carolina had passed a state law Nullifying that tariff.  So those cheap imports were flooding into South Carolina, and South Carolina was then shipping those imports off to the rest of the states. 

Jackson skillfully threatened force at the same time offering South Carolina amendments to the tariff they did not like. 

Remember Jackson had already won the war of 1812 against the British with a decisive victory at New Orleans.  He had also routed the Cherokee and Creek, that had allied with the British, to recover large swaths of Alabama (BAMA), and Georgia.  He also fought bravely in the Revolutionary War, where he was captured nearly died, and lost both his mother and brother.  This engrained in him a deep hatred of the British. 

As has been pointed out.  Going to have a hard time with attaching that racism label.  He was a slave owner.  He was also founder of modern Democratic party, and like most founders of that party, they were slave owners.

Thanks for bringing up the opportunity to relearn a bit about one of our great founding fathers.  Who accomplished many great things, and had a few failings, being a Democrat being the major one, of course. 

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If that was not enough.  Looking at the maps of the wars of 1812, and the Creek Battles, it is extremely likely that the house that you park your arse in every night, is on land that was liberated by Andrew Jackson.  So when you close your eyes at night, whisper a little thank you to Andrew Jackson for what you have.

Spare me the white guilt over disenfranchisement of the native indians.  The cherokee that were displaced during this same war, not by Jackson, but different forces, were the ones that formed up the trail of tears.  The trail of tears was a forced march from the area north of Alabama, Georgia, Tenn, out to South Dakota.  It was mostly the Cherokee, but included Creek, Seminole, Chickasaw, Muscogee and Choctaw.  One of those Cherokee (might have been Chickasaw) women on that trail was my great great grandmother. 

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If that was not enough.  Looking at the maps of the wars of 1812, and the Creek Battles, it is extremely likely that the house that you park your arse in every night, is on land that was liberated by Andrew Jackson.  So when you close your eyes at night, whisper a little thank you to Andrew Jackson for what you have.

Spare me the white guilt over disenfranchisement of the native indians.  The cherokee that were displaced during this same war, not by Jackson, but different forces, were the ones that formed up the trail of tears.  The trail of tears was a forced march from the area north of Alabama, Georgia, Tenn, out to South Dakota.  It was mostly the Cherokee, but included Creek, Seminole, Chickasaw, Muscogee and Choctaw.  One of those Cherokee (might have been Chickasaw) women on that trail was my great great grandmother. 

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My great, great grandmother was Choctaw, and survived the relocation to northern Texas, from Mississippi.

Not to sure of forced relocation into the Souix lands of South Dakota, but most stopped in Indian Territory, modern day Oklahoma.

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uwApologist (someone needs to apologize for you), keepinitreal, The Narrator:

Every one of you are the very worst of America. You believe you are superior to blacks and immigrants and women and libtards, and you are in fact pathetic angry simpletons. Period.

I engage with people who are genuine and who contribute something of value to the discourse, not a bunch of wacko right wing extremists. When one of you losers decides to waste a couple hours a day on some wacko left wing site where there are no reasonable humans, only crazies, then criticize me for not wasting my time on loonies like y'all. I could literally type your responses for you. Boring. 

Now go investigate the child trafficking ring in the pizza place or the masses of serial rapist immigrants or something. Oh and Narrator, I would dearly love to get in your whiney, feminine little face.


So now you are calling us all racist.  You would run faster than Forest did if you ever saw one of us in person - that's one of the problems with the internet, people like you can come here and say whatever they want without any reprocusions.  Typical lib - yellow bellied coward - problem is you are too dumb to know it.
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My great, great grandmother was Choctaw, and survived the relocation to northern Texas, from Mississippi.

Not to sure of forced relocation into the Souix lands of South Dakota, but most stopped in Indian Territory, modern day Oklahoma.

Yes.  Indian Territory, which is Oklahoma.  You are correct.  
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Bama ran away again?
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Bama ran away again?

Just offer him redpills, takes a lot of nrg to decide to swallow them, or spit them out.
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This Sunday afternoon, 7 May, at 1:00 at Lee Circle in New Orleans if you want some more fun with Antifa and some of their pet orcs from the d’Iberville housing projects. The League of the South will be represented.]

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Democrats lost the Civil War and then formed KKK, when they lost the election they formed Antifa. They don't know how to lose with dignity!


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BTW: Quick read of Andrew Jackson's wikipedia page and you to will learn that Jackson skillfully avoided a civil war in 1832.  South Carolina was upset over the Tariff of Abominations and put in motion plans to secede from the union.  That tariff was 62% tax on 92% of the goods traded.  The tariff was designed to protect United States manufacturers, all in northern states, from much cheaper imports that were flooding into the US at the time.  South Carolina had passed a state law Nullifying that tariff.  So those cheap imports were flooding into South Carolina, and South Carolina was then shipping those imports off to the rest of the states. 

Jackson skillfully threatened force at the same time offering South Carolina amendments to the tariff they did not like. 

Remember Jackson had already won the war of 1812 against the British with a decisive victory at New Orleans.  He had also routed the Cherokee and Creek, that had allied with the British, to recover large swaths of Alabama (BAMA), and Georgia.  He also fought bravely in the Revolutionary War, where he was captured nearly died, and lost both his mother and brother.  This engrained in him a deep hatred of the British. 

As has been pointed out.  Going to have a hard time with attaching that racism label.  He was a slave owner.  He was also founder of modern Democratic party, and like most founders of that party, they were slave owners.

Thanks for bringing up the opportunity to relearn a bit about one of our great founding fathers.  Who accomplished many great things, and had a few failings, being a Democrat being the major one, of course. 





Puh-Leeze quit patronizing me as though you need to enlighten me with your spin on US history. That's trump who needs the remedial history lessons. Although I will gladly acknowledge both of us are far more informed than the mor0nic buffoon in the White House, albeit we have differing interpretations of whether certain things were good or bad. Trump was not referring to Andrew Jackson's handling of the Nullification Crisis and avoiding what might have been a precursor to the Civil War. He is a complete know-nothing. Literally clueless. Do you not ever get tired of having to explain what you want us to believe that he meant? Seems like that would get tiresome.

As for Andrew Jackson, again I am fully aware that he is a legendary and heroic figure to those of you who make up the white supremacist filth - and well he should be. By the way, your every word, your every opinion, your every point of emphasis, your every lie even, shows what faction you are in. Why are you ashamed of it or deny it? And do you have a preference on what to be called ... instead of racist or white supremacist? Is there a more politically correct name you guys have given yourselves??

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My fiance' can't stop shaking her head at the notion that I would engage with you people (yes I used that phrase on purpose). But when I read a couple sentences, she yelled out "vomit" and came over and starting reading it LOL. 

I am most bothered by uwApologist because he represents a real, actual, and large segment of society that is well organized, highly efficient at cultivating and spreading talking points (which are pure lies) to fit its very scary agenda. And it's leaders are literally in Trump's ear every single day and know exacly how to stay in good favor with that bozo. Trump's GOP acceptance speech, his frightening "closing statement" for the campaign, several of the EO's, were all Bannon. And unlike the pathetic buffoon trump, Bannon is brilliant. Evil and vile, but brilliant. His more polished looking protégé Miller is not nearly as smart but smart enough.

On the other hand, it is bluedog that my fiance' finds so abhorrent, for the same reason everyone else does ... a dark, sinister man inside who acts like worldly sins or weakness are worse than abiding contempt for others.  

Sorry keepinitreal, no votes for you -- too simple and insignificant to get anyone worked up.

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So, while expressing her disdain for bluedog's sanctimony, she said "wonder what he thought of trump on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women"?  So I said we can scroll back and see. But wow, there are literally 3 missing days of posts immediately after the tape came out. Hmm. It also turns out that when Melania copied and stole the beautiful words of our wonderful former First Lady Michelle Obama, and trump made some flunky old lady who works for him take the blame ... guess what? Another big gap of missing posts from this thread. And when Hillary literally destroyed Trump during the first debate, humiliated him in front of the whole world ... yep, nothing during, after and for a couple days.

Were y'all too devastated during these times to post? Or did somebody go back and zap em all? How pitiful and hilarious.

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BTW: Quick read of Andrew Jackson's wikipedia page and you to will learn that Jackson skillfully avoided a civil war in 1832.  South Carolina was upset over the Tariff of Abominations and put in motion plans to secede from the union.  That tariff was 62% tax on 92% of the goods traded.  The tariff was designed to protect United States manufacturers, all in northern states, from much cheaper imports that were flooding into the US at the time.  South Carolina had passed a state law Nullifying that tariff.  So those cheap imports were flooding into South Carolina, and South Carolina was then shipping those imports off to the rest of the states. 

Jackson skillfully threatened force at the same time offering South Carolina amendments to the tariff they did not like. Up to this point, this is essentially accurate except the characterization that SC had "put in motion plans to secede from the Union." Unlike 30 years later, there weren't other states interested and it was bluster by SC.

Remember Jackson had already won the war of 1812 against the British with a decisive victory at New Orleans.  He had also routed the Cherokee and Creek, that had allied with the British, to recover [recover? LOL] large swaths of Alabama (BAMA), and Georgia.  He also fought bravely in the Revolutionary War, where he was captured nearly died, and lost both his mother and brother.  This engrained in him a deep hatred of the British.  Jackson was a war criminal who brutalized the Creek and Cherokee Indians, including ordering troops to slaughter women and children. 

As has been pointed out.  Going to have a hard time with attaching that racism label.  He was a slave owner.  He was also founder of modern Democratic party, and like most founders of that party, they were slave owners. The political parties as first formed bear no resemblance to today. On the topic of rights of our citizens without regard to race, all of the people (in the south at least) with deeply held prejudices regarding race were yellow dog democrats from way back, changed to the GOP in the 70's after Civil Rights/Voting Rights/school integration, etc.) You know this of course. BUT ... my positions have not ever, and will not ever, be about party. I am no fan of the Democratic party on many issues. My comments relating the current political environment are focused on the agenda of the extreme populists, nationalists, science deniers, post-truthers, faux religious zealots, white supremacists, etc. Not party. 

Thanks for bringing up the opportunity to relearn a bit about one of our great founding fathers.  Who accomplished many great things, and had a few failings, being a Democrat being the major one, of course. trump sure likes him. Add him to the list of Mussolini, Gaddafi, Saddam, Putin, Erdogan. He so longs to be a dictator. 


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Puh-Leeze quit patronizing me as though you need to enlighten me with your spin on US history. That's trump who needs the remedial history lessons. Although I will gladly acknowledge both of us are far more informed than the mor0nic buffoon in the White House, albeit we have differing interpretations of whether certain things were good or bad. Trump was not referring to Andrew Jackson's handling of the Nullification Crisis and avoiding what might have been a precursor to the Civil War. He is a complete know-nothing. Literally clueless. Do you not ever get tired of having to explain what you want us to believe that he meant? Seems like that would get tiresome.

As for Andrew Jackson, again I am fully aware that he is a legendary and heroic figure to those of you who make up the white supremacist filth - and well he should be. By the way, your every word, your every opinion, your every point of emphasis, your every lie even, shows what faction you are in. Why are you ashamed of it or deny it? And do you have a preference on what to be called ... instead of racist or white supremacist? Is there a more politically correct name you guys have given yourselves??

Andrew Jackson's slave ownership has zero to do with why people think of him as a founding father.  Of course.  They think of him as a founding father because of his heroic actions in the Revolutionary war and his brave and decisive leadership in the war of 1812.

The Nullification Crisis was a clear first round at the civil war.  Troops were assembled and marched to the border.  Sides were declared.  While other Southern states had not fully committed to South Carolina, it was generally believed they would side with South Carolina in any conflict.   All easily deduced from the Wikipedia article on Andrew Jackson.

Do I ever get tired of explaining?  No.  It would not be necessary if the snowflakes and their MSM did go off tirelessly about slavery or disenfranchisement of people, every time anyone mentions the founding of our country.  As far as being tiresome, no.  It is very easy.  Open Wikipedia.  Spend 5 minutes on a subject, learn a little in the process. Share with you.  If I feel you are being salty, i tend to add a bit of condescending tone.  It is entertaining.

Andrew Jackson is no more a white supremacists figure than George Washington or the ok sign.  The modern democrat parties constant labelling and political trading on those labels does more to harm lower income blacks and that is why the remain poor and disenfranchised.  You want to give a black a chance in the modern economy, all you have to do is move him out of his democratic maintained 5hithole neighborhood.  Move him to a republican suburb and boom, they take off.

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My fiance' can't stop shaking her head at the notion that I would engage with you people (yes I used that phrase on purpose). But when I read a couple sentences, she yelled out "vomit" and came over and starting reading it LOL. 

I am most bothered by uwApologist because he represents a real, actual, and large segment of society that is well organized, highly efficient at cultivating and spreading talking points (which are pure lies) to fit its very scary agenda. And it's leaders are literally in Trump's ear every single day and know exacly how to stay in good favor with that bozo. Trump's GOP acceptance speech, his frightening "closing statement" for the campaign, several of the EO's, were all Bannon. And unlike the pathetic buffoon trump, Bannon is brilliant. Evil and vile, but brilliant. His more polished looking protégé Miller is not nearly as smart but smart enough.

On the other hand, it is bluedog that my fiance' finds so abhorrent, for the same reason everyone else does ... a dark, sinister man inside who acts like worldly sins or weakness are worse than abiding contempt for others.  

Sorry keepinitreal, no votes for you -- too simple and insignificant to get anyone worked up.

You can let you fiance know, I get zero talking points from anyone. 

You will also find yourself quite confused if you think I am any kind of model for your white supremacy labelling system.  I have shared past stories about a black neighbor I had in my 20's that mentored me more about being in the modern business world than any in my past, and how much I owe that gentlemen.  He did for no other reason than we lived across the street and it was the right thing to do.  My part I as smart enough to listen to that man, and realize he had so much to offer the world.

I have also shared that my kids went to the highest percentage English as Second Language (ESL) grade schools in the nation.   We have more Mung, Vietnamese and Asian, and Indian folks living in my neighborhood than there are white's by far.  The cultural enrichment my kids received from being raised with those folks has been off the chart.  They have also learned the value of super hard work, that nothing comes for free.  And if you start with nothing, you can still make a great way in the world. 



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Here's BAMA's fiance' running her booth at the flea market, trying to make a 2 for 1

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uwa, they named you at the top of the list and it seems to bother you, they want you to share in their white guilt.  They found a chink in your armor.
You owe no explanations to those two first cousins, they will reject your message with little regard for your words and explanations.  The idea that they've been chummed by bluedog has started my day out on a good note.

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The Hmong people were used and abused by our CIA in what is called "the secret war".............It happened in Laos during the Vietnam war............

To this day, most people don't know of the misery the Hmong have gone through and are still going through............. 
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Hey Real, the Alabama flash is going back looking up my posts...........

You gotta love it!    [biggrin]




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So, while expressing her disdain for bluedog's sanctimony, she said "wonder what he thought of trump on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women"?  


Bama, she wouldn't have to wonder if she'd just ask me?

Is she shy, or what?
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