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CrowHop

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Yes, these days you can only be arrogant and aloof if you win.  A lot.
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It is funny how Myers got the free ride on the backs of Deese's recruits.... and now Dean is getting pilloried for the players the Myerses brought in
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Dean has also not done a great job connecting with the fan base. At AU, if you connect with the fans, you earn lots of goodwill. I 100% believe Bruce Pearl would have been fired last year if he wasn’t so loved by Auburn fans. Meanwhile, Gus Malzahn beat both teams that played in the National Championship last year and some Auburn fans still wanted him gone because of his personality. I hope Dean succeeds, but he is not really inspiring confidence.
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I think we all can find fault with coaches for their on the field decisions. I can remember some bone head plays Meyers tried too. But what I am saying, is that let's see how he manages over time. NONE of these players were his, and every team in any sport should be given the chance to win with their philosophy on coaching and who he recruits. Dean did win, but just not enough. He got us to the playoffs with strong pitching, but our hitting did NOT progress over the last 2 years (even with Meyers). Losing 3 of your top hitters from last year really put this team in an offensive hole.

And I could care less the personality of a coach. Is it more fun if you have a coach who interacts well with fans? ofc. But if the coach still doesn't win, that won't last very long. Pearl's personality is great, but if he had not won the SEC, and finished like he did the last 3 years before, he was DEFINITELY on the hot seat.

So with Dean, who knows. He has won, but now we must give him a couple of years recruiting and trying to replace the good players who were the core of Meyer's strongest teams. It will show, but now is not the time to just give up on a coach.
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That's rock solid, steelau
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Heard Lynch is intrigued by Washington, not saying she's gonna decommit or whatever but she seems to be all ears right now
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Heard Lynch is intrigued by Washington, not saying she's gonna decommit or whatever but she seems to be all ears right now


Auburn fans (probably) should be scared by that. Her former...future??? teammate in Sarah Willis just might be able to sell her on everything that made her flip from Auburn to Washington herself.
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Bruce Pearl is not only a fan favorite, his players love playing for him. Mickey Dean is a micromanaging drill Sargent and I am not sure how well that will play out long term. "Boys have to win to have fun, girls have to have fun to win" ~ unknown
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Multiple NCAA investigations... Auburn playing with fire with Pearl
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Multiple NCAA investigations... Auburn playing with fire with Pearl

You show how much you don’t know about Bruce Pearl.

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What does that even mean?

What we do know makes him dangerous enough to an athletic department
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What does that even mean?

What we do know makes him dangerous enough to an athletic department

All I will say is this, I know details you don’t know. Please go to your own board and bash other team’s coaches all you want but do us all a favor and let’s talk about Auburn softball on the Auburn softball board.

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Multiple NCAA investigations... Auburn playing with fire with Pearl


I don't know why you posted this here. I firmly believe with a new President and a new AD, Pearl was investigated up and down, inside and out, before they agreed to keep him on and give him an extension. 

And I am DOUBLY sure Greene will be watching the basketball program under a microscope, and Pearl has all kind of compliance requirements to adhere to, that other coaches have not had to deal with.

Maybe you don't like him, I don't know...but to throw something so vague out there...only incites the ones who DO NOT like Pearl for whatever reason.

Let it go..and let's see how the BB program evolves over the next 2 years. 

Now I'm done...back to softball worries..lol.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/auburn-wont-appeal-show-cause-against-bruce-pearl/

Definitely an excellent coach but I don’t think it’s out of line to say there was risk involved with his hire.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/auburn-wont-appeal-show-cause-against-bruce-pearl/

Definitely an excellent coach but I don’t think it’s out of line to say there was risk involved with his hire.


Old news, 2014 article
WAS being the key word here.

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/auburn-wont-appeal-show-cause-against-bruce-pearl/

Definitely an excellent coach but I don’t think it’s out of line to say there was risk involved with his hire.


Shows how little people know before feeling like an expert and typing a post...

The NCAA investigator that Pearl lied to, Dave Didion, is an Assoc AD at Auburn.  HE signed off on the hire of Pearl back when it happened. 

Did Pearl have trouble at Tennessee...yes he did.  He would have had a whole lot less trouble if he had told the truth.  Lie to the NCAA and it's over....they already know the answers before they ask the guilty party if they're guilty.

There's one thing EVERYONE needs to understand about the SEC schools (except Kentucky) and basketball.....basketball is a dirty sport across the board at all levels....everyone inside athletics and basketball knows that.  However, to think that ANY SEC school (except Kentucky) is going to let it's basketball program take down the mighty cash cow of football is clueless.  The reason Tony Barbee didn't last at Auburn (besides being a terrible coach) was that compliance cut his legs out from under him his first year with the biggest AAU name in the state.  He lost 2 top 10 recruits in the same weekend after compliance wouldn't let the AAU guys son walk-on.  The AAU guy was the one who got Auburn in trouble in basketball back in the early 2000's.  http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/PressArchive/2004/Infractions/Auburn+University+Placed+On+Probation+for+Violations+in+Mens+Basketball.html

So when they hired Pearl they checked under every rock and ultimately got the seal of approval from the guy who initially investigated him and found him guilty.  If there was anything wrong he would NOT have been hired. 


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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/auburn-wont-appeal-show-cause-against-bruce-pearl/

Definitely an excellent coach but I don’t think it’s out of line to say there was risk involved with his hire.


Yes Bruce Pearl got a show cause because he lied to the NCAA, but his lie was about having a player over to his house for a BBQ, not paying players.

What happened at AU with Chuck Person hurt AU, it didn’t help. He was shopping players to agents and working to get them to leave AU to go pro. Pearl was put under the ultimate microscope and they found nothing.

If you question Pearl’s character, I suggest you watch this...

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=23916367



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He would have had a whole lot less trouble if he had told the truth.  Lie to the NCAA and it's over.


Wasn't really 'over' for him, though, was it?

So, CBP is a verified/documented liar.  I guess in the dirty world of college basketball, that qualifies him for sainthood.

*shrug*



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Now the softball team has lost another player? Jenna Olszewski...

I wonder what the reason is for her leaving? She seemed to be in line for an OF position. 
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Kolaitis will probably get good production from her
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Now the softball team has lost another player? Jenna Olszewski...

I wonder what the reason is for her leaving? She seemed to be in line for an OF position. 


She is still listed on the roster. Is it for sure she is leaving?

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She is still listed on the roster. Is it for sure she is leaving?



https://uabsports.com/news/2018/7/11/softball-uab-adds-jenna-olszewski-to-roster.aspx
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Heard a rumor that Kelly Lynch is talking with Washington, Florida, and Alabama.
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Heard a rumor that Kelly Lynch is talking with Washington, Florida, and Alabama.


My source told me she is very interested in Washington and this was weeks ago. Alabama and Florida would make sense too, her best friends will be heading there and she had some interest in them before committing to Auburn.

If I was an Auburn fan I’d be a little nervous.
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My source told me she is very interested in Washington and this was weeks ago. Alabama and Florida would make sense too, her best friends will be heading there and she had some interest in them before committing to Auburn.

If I was an Auburn fan I’d be a little nervous.



Wonder if Georgia gets in the picture?
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My source told me she is very interested in Washington and this was weeks ago. Alabama and Florida would make sense too, her best friends will be heading there and she had some interest in them before committing to Auburn.

If I was an Auburn fan I’d be a little nervous.


Name your source please. I read this on a message board last spring and found it not to be true at that time.

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Name your source please. I read this on a message board last spring and found it not to be true at that time.


I can say that a dad of one of her travel teammates told me a few months ago that she was talking to Walton and Murphy.
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Name your source please. I read this on a message board last spring and found it not to be true at that time.


Parents on her travel ball team and Ive heard other stuff from coaches in the travel ball scene. I do know she has chatted with Coach Tarr this summer, do not have confirmation on Walton or Murphy. She did start following Coach Walton on twitter the other day, I know its dumb to read too much into social media but it isn't the worst indicator at times. 


Listen I am not saying she is bolting from Auburn, but she is listening to what else is out there. To be fair to the kid, she committed to play for a completely different coach and there is a contrast from Meyers and Coach Dean. 

That said she LOVES Auburn and what the school offers. 

I just think this situation is one to keep an eye on. Don't know much about this upcoming class for Auburn but losing Lynch would be a major major blow. 
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I can say that a dad of one of her travel teammates told me a few months ago that she was talking to Walton and Murphy.


Thanks, it will be interesting to follow

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I just think this situation is one to keep an eye on. Don't know much about this upcoming class for Auburn but losing Lynch would be a major major blow. 


Losing quality recruits stinks but remember, she won't make or break the Roster for Auburn by any stretch and, she's a Freshman so jury is still out on her.  Odds are better she'll spend more time in the Bullpen than getting actual innings, especially in the SEC. You've got Martin & Harris who will eat up 90% of the innings. Unless either of those 2 have transferred Lynch is a spectator for at least the first year. She's a far cry from Jaylen Ford or Megan Good who both pitched for Dean as Freshman @ JMU.
And if she does decide to go elsewhere. Dean will just find a Transfer or another arm. Lynch is replaceable. 


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Losing quality recruits stinks but remember, she won't make or break the Roster for Auburn by any stretch and, she's a Freshman so jury is still out on her.  Odds are better she'll spend more time in the Bullpen than getting actual innings, especially in the SEC. You've got Martin & Harris who will eat up 90% of the innings. Unless either of those 2 have transferred Lynch is a spectator for at least the first year. She's a far cry from Jaylen Ford or Megan Good who both pitched for Dean as Freshman @ JMU.
And if she does decide to go elsewhere. Dean will just find a Transfer or another arm. Lynch is replaceable. 




Everyone is replaceable.
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