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This was indeed a huge series win for Auburn. Both game winning runs for Auburn came off of LSU errors, but I'll take it nonetheless.


Glad to see us hitting some hard ground balls.   There have been too many fly outs this season, so maybe this will serve as a way to drive that point across.   I figured the mid-week games in TN would be cancelled and they have been.  Softball shouldn't be played with temps in the 30's.   We are a notch above the teams we are playing this weekend, so hopefully we can get the bats going before we play UF next weekend.
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Kaylee Carlson threw a 6 inning perfect game against Ohio State.

2nd perfect game in program history. Holly Currie was the other AU hurler to do so.

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How many illegal pitches she throw in her PERFECT game? 

Better yet, how many of them were called by the cowardly plate umpire? What a joke.
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How many illegal pitches she throw in her PERFECT game? 

Better yet, how many of them were called by the cowardly plate umpire? What a joke.


She didn't throw any illegal pitches because well they didn't call them as they haven't all year or in her entire career. Every umpire in the country is clearly a coward! The Auburn haters crack me up and I honestly love it.
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She didn't throw any illegal pitches because well they didn't call them as they haven't all year or in her entire career. Every umpire in the country is clearly a coward! The Auburn haters crack me up and I honestly love it.


The right coach will see to it that she is called, give it time. Which, does remind me... Don't you travel to Gainesville soon? We'll see how many Walton gets her called for. 

Hopefully every single one.

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The right coach will see to it that she is called, give it time. Which, does remind me... Don't you travel to Gainesville soon? We'll see how many Walton gets her called for. 

Hopefully every single one.



A Bulldog pulling for the Gators. The hate must run really deep.

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The right coach will see to it that she is called, give it time. Which, does remind me... Don't you travel to Gainesville soon? We'll see how many Walton gets her called for. 

Hopefully every single one.



You act like Carlson hasn't faced Florida multiple times and nothing was ever called. Florida has an excellent shot at winning the series or even sweeping next weekend, especially if Auburn doesn't get the bats going, but if Carlson doesn't get called for it next weekend, I do hope you'll come back and call Walton a coward.
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She didn't throw any illegal pitches because well they didn't call them as they haven't all year or in her entire career. Every umpire in the country is clearly a coward! The Auburn haters crack me up and I honestly love it.


Not an Auburn hater at all. Yes, any plate umpire who's worked her games is a spineless coward. I've called them out, along with most everybody else who is an objective observer & fan of the game. If Auburns playing Florida, my bet is your coming unhinged when Barnhill leaps like a jackrabbit which she clearly did last year. Thankfully she is 100% better this season. 

Hey Tigers334, I get you're a homer fan. It's understandable. As a fan & student of the game, I just want it played by the rules. And I want the umpires to have the stones to make the call. The sad thing is the umps are so intimidated by Myers it affects their judgement and, the integrity of the game. Sad.

NCAA 2016-2017 rule book. page 101 sec 10.4.2  Check it out, I'd love to hear your interpretation.
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Great game for Kaylee and Auburn, and of course, you see the haters coming out again.  It's so old.   I have the rulebook open.  What she does is within the rules.  She's a junior. You'd think that fans with any sense would have figured out what she does is within the rules.   She pitched at UNC before coming to Auburn, so the argument that umpires are intimidated by Myers is also without merit.

As the son of a professional and college baseball umpire, I too have an appreciation for the rules.  Your use of the word "coward" means so much coming from someone hiding behind an internet connected keyboard.  Auburn has faced Oklahoma, Washington, UCLA, FSU, UGA, UF, bama, James Madison, LSU, Arizona, ULL (Louisiana) amongst others the past couple of seasons with Carlson pitching.   That's a lot of great head coaches you are insulting.   
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Great game for Kaylee and Auburn, and of course, you see the haters coming out again.  It's so old.   I have the rulebook open.  What she does is within the rules.  She's a junior. You'd think that fans with any sense would have figured out what she does is within the rules.   She pitched at UNC before coming to Auburn, so the argument that umpires are intimidated by Myers is also without merit.

As the son of a professional and college baseball umpire, I too have an appreciation for the rules.  Your use of the word "coward" means so much coming from someone hiding behind an internet connected keyboard.  Auburn has faced Oklahoma, Washington, UCLA, FSU, UGA, UF, bama, James Madison, LSU, Arizona, ULL (Louisiana) amongst others the past couple of seasons with Carlson pitching.   That's a lot of great head coaches you are insulting.   


So quick question, do YOU (not what the umpires are calling) think her pitching is legal by written rule?
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I don't think the intimidation line is without merit at all
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Not an Auburn hater at all. Yes, any plate umpire who's worked her games is a spineless coward. I've called them out, along with most everybody else who is an objective observer & fan of the game. If Auburns playing Florida, my bet is your coming unhinged when Barnhill leaps like a jackrabbit which she clearly did last year. Thankfully she is 100% better this season. 

Hey Tigers334, I get you're a homer fan. It's understandable. As a fan & student of the game, I just want it played by the rules. And I want the umpires to have the stones to make the call. The sad thing is the umps are so intimidated by Myers it affects their judgement and, the integrity of the game. Sad.

NCAA 2016-2017 rule book. page 101 sec 10.4.2  Check it out, I'd love to hear your interpretation.


I don't think I would qualify as a homer. Hell, I've said a ton of times this year alone that I think Auburn is a bit overrated and will struggle against quality pitching. I also have seen times when Carlson has been illegal and have also said that on this board, but more times than not her foot is still within the lane when she releases the ball. I am a former umpire myself and watch every single game and it just makes me laugh that you all have so much dislike for Clint and AU that you come on an Auburn thread and discredit the second perfect game in AU history. This theory that umpires are scared of Clint is hilarious to me. Marci Harper used to have a big issue with illegal pitches and it was called every time. It must have been recently that Clint put the fear of God in every umpire in the country.
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Great game for Kaylee and Auburn, and of course, you see the haters coming out again.  It's so old.   I have the rulebook open.  What she does is within the rules.  She's a junior. You'd think that fans with any sense would have figured out what she does is within the rules.   She pitched at UNC before coming to Auburn, so the argument that umpires are intimidated by Myers is also without merit.

As the son of a professional and college baseball umpire, I too have an appreciation for the rules.  Your use of the word "coward" means so much coming from someone hiding behind an internet connected keyboard.  Auburn has faced Oklahoma, Washington, UCLA, FSU, UGA, UF, bama, James Madison, LSU, Arizona, ULL (Louisiana) amongst others the past couple of seasons with Carlson pitching.   That's a lot of great head coaches you are insulting.   


"The stride foot must land on or within the lines of the pitching lane."

You must be looking at a Badminton rulebook.

Insulting great coaches?? If anything her pitching coach should get a raise. At Carolina her mechanics were at least watchable and, within the rules. She looks like an Olympic Speed Skater now. She steps into the 1st base dugout on every pitch.

And congratulations on being the son of an umpire. While impressive, not sure that helps your cause. Your 0-1 on rule interpretations.


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Seems you are if it's not being called.
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So quick question, do YOU (not what the umpires are calling) think her pitching is legal by written rule?


I think it's fine.  I've not spent much time worrying about it.   From a few quick YouTube reviews it looks like she lands with her stride foot close to the line.  I've seen one where it's out for sure by an inch or two, I'm sure there's more.  You want to waste your time and find more, go ahead.  It's not happening every pitch for sure.  I sit in a good spot to view it and I don't see her going out.   You can find runners leaving early, slappers hitting the ball out of the box, players leaning into pitches...etc.   
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I think it's fine.  I've not spent much time worrying about it.   From a few quick YouTube reviews it looks like she lands with her stride foot close to the line.  I've seen one where it's out for sure by an inch or two, I'm sure there's more.  You want to waste your time and find more, go ahead.  It's not happening every pitch for sure.  I sit in a good spot to view it and I don't see her going out.   You can find runners leaving early, slappers hitting the ball out of the box, players leaning into pitches...etc.   Thanks for coming over to the AU page to whine like a puppy.


So asking a question is whining like a puppy. Glad I could help.

At least you can admit that she has been illegal and the umpires are not doing their job and calling it. Much appreciated. Also, good to know it's fine by you to just ignore the rule book.
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So asking a question is whining like a puppy. Glad I could help. At least you can admit that she has been illegal and the umpires are not doing their job and calling it. Much appreciated. Also, good to know it's fine by you to just ignore the rule book.


Sorry, thought you were the initial griper with the Puppy comment.   I don't watch it that much.  What I took a few moments to watch from last year's UGA game 1 she was legal throughout the 1st inning.  She lands in the same spot pretty consistently and that's on the line, which is legal.  I've seen a quick one where she wasn't.  Whoopee.  I think it's much ado about nothing.
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Sorry, thought you were the initial griper with the Puppy comment.   I don't watch it that much.  What I took a few moments to watch from last year's UGA game 1 she was legal throughout the 1st inning.  She lands in the same spot pretty consistently and that's on the line, which is legal.  I've seen a quick one where she wasn't.  Whoopee.  I think it's much ado about nothing.


For what it's worth, I appreciate you being objective and taking a look. Fair assessment also. I can't speak for jayrot but, I'm not at all an Auburn hater. I'm a huge fan of the team & Myers. I know kids/parents on the team & future recruits. My criticism of Carlson isn't personal. I had similar thoughts on Barnhill last year. She looked like she was in a Moon Bounce on half her pitches. At least she got called for it. I've never seen a single instance of Carlson being called. Maybe Myers has Voodoo Dolls of all the plate umpires, I don't know. 

I would ask you this: If Barnhill is allowed to create the same angle from the right side, throwing 70,  as Carlson is from the left, is that ok?

At any rate, good debate. 
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For what it's worth, I appreciate you being objective and taking a look. Fair assessment also. I can't speak for jayrot but, I'm not at all an Auburn hater. I'm a huge fan of the team & Myers. I know kids/parents on the team & future recruits. My criticism of Carlson isn't personal. I had similar thoughts on Barnhill last year. She looked like she was in a Moon Bounce on half her pitches. At least she got called for it. I've never seen a single instance of Carlson being called. Maybe Myers has Voodoo Dolls of all the plate umpires, I don't know. 

I would ask you this: If Barnhill is allowed to create the same angle from the right side, throwing 70,  as Carlson is from the left, is that ok?

At any rate, good debate. 


Since Barnhill was the only Gator pitcher Auburn hit last year, I was perfectly fine with it. [wink]
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Sorry, thought you were the initial griper with the Puppy comment.   I don't watch it that much.  What I took a few moments to watch from last year's UGA game 1 she was legal throughout the 1st inning.  She lands in the same spot pretty consistently and that's on the line, which is legal.  I've seen a quick one where she wasn't.  Whoopee.  I think it's much ado about nothing.


See I just disagree because, of the illegal pitch varieties, this one is the worst for me. It alters the angle of delivery and puts the batter at even more of a disadvantage, which is not based on the pitchers talents alone.

I don't hate auburn. There are certain players I don't like, but there are certainly players I'd love to have on my team (Cooper/Draper). Auburn has had great pitchers who don't have to resort to this, Martin, Davis, Harper and Walters. So just leaves me a little baffled.
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For what it's worth, I appreciate you being objective and taking a look. Fair assessment also. I can't speak for jayrot but, I'm not at all an Auburn hater. I'm a huge fan of the team & Myers. I know kids/parents on the team & future recruits. My criticism of Carlson isn't personal. I had similar thoughts on Barnhill last year. She looked like she was in a Moon Bounce on half her pitches. At least she got called for it. I've never seen a single instance of Carlson being called. Maybe Myers has Voodoo Dolls of all the plate umpires, I don't know. 

I would ask you this: If Barnhill is allowed to create the same angle from the right side, throwing 70,  as Carlson is from the left, is that ok?

At any rate, good debate. 
I don't see how the criticism of the umps is ameliorated one bit by this
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I don't see how the criticism of the umps is ameliorated one bit by this


It's not. Whether it's Carlson or the 3 Stooges, the mechanics are bad & illegal, regardless of how often and should be called. All umps have pre-games and I promise you Carlson's delivery is discussed. For whatever reason it is ignored. (job security)
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Sorry to bust your bubble but more than 1 coach has fussed about our pitcher. As long as any part of her foot hits the line, she is legal. Its not going to get called and if it does it will not be a pitch or two due to the fact her toe hits the line. Sorry. You are beating a horse to death. I love to read all the replies but Florida and LSU having nothing they can fuss about.
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Good to see us battling back.  Carlson doing a great job of working around the continued hiccups on defense.  McCrackin wasn't charged with an error on the foul ball (or on the drop that ended the game on Saturday night).  UF's official scorer sure is lenient.
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Good to see us battling back.  Carlson doing a great job of working around the continued hiccups on defense.  McCrackin wasn't charged with an error on the foul ball (or on the drop that ended the game on Saturday night).  UF's official scorer sure is lenient.


Are you a politician? Lenient?? That is some... lenient... use of language

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Release the Crackin! She caught one....
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Crackin is a bull in a china shop
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Are you a politician? Lenient?? That is some... lenient... use of language

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Weak sauce?  Home cooking?  Trying to get some BA's up?  Yeah, I could have put quotes around it.   The fact that this team is playing poor defense and got away with it vs. LSU and cost us vs. UF certainly is a concern.
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http://auburn.247sports.com/Bolt/Florida-coach-Auburn-player-push-each-other-after-game-52004508



The line should never be crossed, ever...despite thinking Walton accidentally did his part on purpose (more to say like girl shake everyone's hand), but no player should ever touch a coach.
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