Still_JAD
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Just watched the replay of the Arizona vs. UCLA game and noticed the Arizona F4 was wearing a facemask. Has she always worn it or is she protecting an injury? Sorry if this has already been discussed - I did not read through all 14 pages of this thread before posting.
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Video of the Carranco facial injury
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Originally Posted by 3leftturns D.J. has looked much better the past two weeks, but agreed, the Pac pitching level in 2018, game after game, week after week, is stratospheric
Could it be that the coach that taught her the hitting style she uses is no longer working with her on a daily basis?
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Doubtful. Pitching is night and day.
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Originally Posted by CajunAmos Could it be that the coach that taught her the hitting style she uses is no longer working with her on a daily basis?
Really? Once a concept is taught, it never leaves. This year is showing the huge truth about level of play.
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A product of Amphi High will replace Harper and one from Tucson High will take over for Palomino in August 2020.
Who will replace Candrea and Coors Light?
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Who the hell has been the one in charge of recruiting pitchers? If it’s Candrea he needs to retire.
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Originally Posted by smileyface Who the hell has been the one in charge of recruiting pitchers? If it’s Candrea he needs to retire.
I don't know the answer to your question but I recall from conversations back when I went to most UCLA games that Candrea didn't do the recruiting in the 2005-2010 time frame, so I doubt he does it now. It was Evans then, and now I assume the issue with pitcher recruiting is the revolving door of pitching coaches since Evans left. With no continuity at pitching coach, its tough to have the 2-3 year relationship with travel coaches and pitcher parents that leads to the verbal. Plus it is worth noting that Candrea doesn't believe in letting his pitchers hit, even when they are great hitters in Travel. UCLA has benefitted greatly from letting Langenfeld, Carda, and now Garcia hit regularly when pitching, and even DHing when not in the circle that day.
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Originally Posted by DunninLA I don't know the answer to your question but I recall from conversations back when I went to most UCLA games that Candrea didn't do the recruiting in the 2005-2010 time frame, so I doubt he does it now. It was Evans then, and now I assume the issue with pitcher recruiting is the revolving door of pitching coaches since Evans left. With no continuity at pitching coach, its tough to have the 2-3 year relationship with travel coaches and pitcher parents that leads to the verbal. Plus it is worth noting that Candrea doesn't believe in letting his pitchers hit, even when they are great hitters in Travel. UCLA has benefitted greatly from letting Langenfeld, Carda, and now Garcia hit regularly when pitching, and even DHing when not in the circle that day.
Finch and Mowatt were pretty studly hitters, as were Julie Jones and Debbie Day, so I think it's been a mix.
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Originally Posted by 1janiedough Finch and Mowatt were pretty studly hitters, as were Julie Jones and Debbie Day, so I think it's been a mix.
It's a farce to mix "Coors Light" Mowatt with Finch, Jones and Day when CLM did not hit in 2005 and 2008. In 2006-07 CLM (combined) batted 122 times with 32 hits I suppose as hitters Parra & Evans were chopped liver You sure as Hell have a fixation on "Coors Light"
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Originally Posted by Scupino You sure as Hell have a fixation on "Coors Light"
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Who asked u to butt in FBF
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This is the one who will play SS at Arizona Hillenbrand
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(EDIT: I'm sure that's what her mom wants. Her brother may be a lineman for the Cats.) Mmmm. Maybe 1B right now. If she can hit PAC 12 pitching. KW has to develop alot before she has the defensive skills of the typical PAC 12 SS.
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Originally Posted by Scupino It's a farce to mix "Coors Light" Mowatt with Finch, Jones and Day when CLM did not hit in 2005 and 2008. In 2006-07 CLM (combined) batted 122 times with 32 hits I suppose as hitters Parra & Evans were chopped liver You sure as Hell have a fixation on "Coors Light"
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After the unfortunate ending to last years season, I’d be the first to admit Candrea should retire. I will say that I’m not too impressed watching the Cats this year (6-9 PAC). Still have a lot of work to do to return to WCWS and not sure Candrea will be the one to guide them. McQuillin seems a bit stronger this year, but that may be out of necessity as there isn’t much by way of bullpen support. Holding decent #’s for pitching in the PAC..
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Originally Posted by Not2day After the unfortunate ending to last years season, I’d be the first to admit Candrea should retire. I will say that I’m not too impressed watching the Cats this year (6-9 PAC). Still have a lot of work to do to return to WCWS and not sure Candrea will be the one to guide them. McQuillin seems a bit stronger this year, but that may be out of necessity as there isn’t much by way of bullpen support. Holding decent #’s for pitching in the PAC..
McQuillin is the most fragile of all and cannot handle any big game situations.
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I read that article. Something vital was conveniently missing, and it’s this:
All coaches must deal with modern kid attitudes and yet some programs produce great teams that are championship contenders. Candrea should ask himself why that is rather than play the damnable general that blames the troops...
You obviously need talent to win. And if you can’t recruit elite talent in-depth, then you need to develop lesser talent to the elite level. Arizona coaches haven’t been able to do either job since their last WCWS team in 2010. That’s the true root of Arizona’s problem. Modern kid attitudes, however real, is mostly a red herring and a stinky one at that.
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9Wildcats I read that article. Something vital was conveniently missing, and it’s this:
All coaches must deal with modern kid attitudes and yet some programs produce great teams that are championship contenders. Candrea should ask himself why that is rather than play the damnable general that blames the troops...
You obviously need talent to win. And if you can’t recruit elite talent in-depth, then you need to develop lesser talent to the elite level. Arizona coaches haven’t been able to do either job since their last WCWS team in 2010. That’s the true root of Arizona’s problem. Modern kid attitudes, however real, is mostly a red herring and a stinky one at that.
I did not see him blaming anyone, in fact, I see him asking himself over and over what the hell do I do to turn this around? As an aside, the modern day fragility of this younger generation is VERY real. I see it all over the place.
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Originally Posted by 1janiedough I did not see him blaming anyone, in fact, I see him asking himself over and over what the hell do I do to turn this around? As an aside, the modern day fragility of this younger generation is VERY real. I see it all over the place.
The early recruiting is well into creating alot of buyers remorse. Seems at one point almost 2 years ago, Candrea had something like 5-7 2020s committed. And he's only 1 Coach. Look no further than Walton @ Florida. He's probably cruising an Elementary School playground as we speak. That anybody would be surprised defies logic. And the 'fragility' he spoke of...I give him alot of credit for calling his kids out. And he probably got a few calls from mommy or daddy forwarding the youngsters Head Doctor #. The bigger problem concerning every program in the P5 is the amount of Athletic Scholarship dollars being committed to so many young kids. Many, I believe will never step foot on their respective campus. They will most likely get de-committed or figure out Barber College was a better idea than sitting on the end of the bench just to wear a uniform. The more interesting stat I'd like to see is, of the ones that do make it, how many last past their 1st year or transfer.
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Candrea could retire after 2022 when his extension ends but I doubt he will cause he wants to be there for Kristiana Watson's four years.
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Originally Posted by outofzone The early recruiting is well into creating alot of buyers remorse. Seems at one point almost 2 years ago, Candrea had something like 5-7 2020s committed. And he's only 1 Coach. Look no further than Walton @ Florida. He's probably cruising an Elementary School playground as we speak. That anybody would be surprised defies logic. And the 'fragility' he spoke of...I give him alot of credit for calling his kids out. And he probably got a few calls from mommy or daddy forwarding the youngsters Head Doctor #. The bigger problem concerning every program in the P5 is the amount of Athletic Scholarship dollars being committed to so many young kids. Many, I believe will never step foot on their respective campus. They will most likely get de-committed or figure out Barber College was a better idea than sitting on the end of the bench just to wear a uniform. The more interesting stat I'd like to see is, of the ones that do make it, how many last past their 1st year or transfer.
There was a great article about this very subject with candrea and rhonda revelle and hutch making a lot of comments.
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Originally Posted by outofzone The early recruiting is well into creating alot of buyers remorse. Seems at one point almost 2 years ago, Candrea had something like 5-7 2020s committed. And he's only 1 Coach. Look no further than Walton @ Florida. He's probably cruising an Elementary School playground as we speak. That anybody would be surprised defies logic. And the 'fragility' he spoke of...I give him alot of credit for calling his kids out. And he probably got a few calls from mommy or daddy forwarding the youngsters Head Doctor #. The bigger problem concerning every program in the P5 is the amount of Athletic Scholarship dollars being committed to so many young kids. Many, I believe will never step foot on their respective campus. They will most likely get de-committed or figure out Barber College was a better idea than sitting on the end of the bench just to wear a uniform. The more interesting stat I'd like to see is, of the ones that do make it, how many last past their 1st year or transfer.
I find it funny that there's this big push to stop early recruiting, including these big name coaches, yet they are the worst culprits.
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9Wildcats I read that article. Something vital was conveniently missing, and it’s this:
All coaches must deal with modern kid attitudes and yet some programs produce great teams that are championship contenders. Candrea should ask himself why that is rather than play the damnable general that blames the troops...
You obviously need talent to win. And if you can’t recruit elite talent in-depth, then you need to develop lesser talent to the elite level. Arizona coaches haven’t been able to do either job since their last WCWS team in 2010. That’s the true root of Arizona’s problem. Modern kid attitudes, however real, is mostly a red herring and a stinky one at that.
Yes to all of this.
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Originally Posted by lovsofbal I find it funny that there's this big push to stop early recruiting, including these big name coaches, yet they are the worst culprits.
I agree, however, if you want to remain competitive, you gotta play the game, so it's a catch-22. ALL the coaches have to band together to stop it.
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Originally Posted by 1janiedough I agree, however, if you want to remain competitive, you gotta play the game, so it's a catch-22. ALL the coaches have to band together to stop it.
Well they apparently have a band, It's the music they actually listen to is the problem. to say they have to play the game is a copout.
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Originally Posted by lovsofbal Well they apparently have a band, It's the music they actually listen to is the problem. to say they have to play the game is a copout.
I guess...of you want to miss out on potential recruits. Im not a fan of early recruiting, believe me! Not sure how it even got to this point.
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