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Coach will need to bring in TWO more speedy players.
He needs speed.

And Arizona needs hitters.
A player which has not hit for 2 years (5 years) does not sound like a great coaching move. 

Better go get a much better 1st baseman then Kenzie.....
Come on.....





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can anyone offer any insight into michelle floyd? is she as good as ive heard? just curious!
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can anyone offer any insight into michelle floyd? is she as good as ive heard? just curious!


Well... to be fair everyone at this point last year said Bowling would've saved the program this season. Really means nothing at this point if you were good in HS or Travel Ball.

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Dont know who you have heard from but suffice it to say she will not be the one that resurrects the program, nor will it be the one after her.
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can anyone offer any insight into michelle floyd? is she as good as ive heard? just curious!


Well... to be fair everyone at this point last year said Bowling would've saved the program this season. Really means nothing at this point if you were good in HS or Travel Ball.



Lets break this down;
Floyd: Very good pitcher already, has successfully pitched on the TOP travel team(s) in Southern CA and recently has show a significant amount of improvement and maturity. As this 6' 2" pitcher gets physically stronger (which Arizona will certainly do for her), we may be looking at the next "Finch". Barring any unforeseen obstacles, expect her to be a dominant force, in her sophomore season. 

As for the others: 
Bowling: missed a lot of her travel season, due to an injury - she is still working, to get back to where she needs to be, but this kid has always worked hard (Simply put, you don't grow up playing on a top travel team, if you are not talented and have developed a strong wok ethic), so expect to see an improvement in her, next Fall. She knows that, if she doesn't improve - she won't pitch.

Fowler: Got them to the WCWS her freshman year, then suffered through one injury after another. Now, with this being her LAST year, and finally being healthy and pain free again, look for a renewed focus and determination from KF. IMO, she will play a BIG part in UA getting back to the WCWS in 2014.

Babcock: If She gets ANY pitching time next season, it will because of an injury to one of the other pitchers, or the result of a really lopsided score in a game, where they want to save the others pitchers.
interestingly, Babcock has the physical ability to be a great pitcher, but after watching her dismal performances year after year - and inability to master at least ONE pitch, it is clearly a lack of; work ethic, personal accountability and a deep desire to do whatever it takes to be great.

Pinion: We won't see her next season. This experiment was a "Fail"... Iveson and Pinion, should return to the JUCO where they came from...


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Exactly!

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can anyone offer any insight into michelle floyd? is she as good as ive heard? just curious!


Well... to be fair everyone at this point last year said Bowling would've saved the program this season.
What?  Nobody was saying that.   Bowling was never an Ace in Travel... just check out the Premier stats.   In High school she was in to top 10 in Socal, but that doesn't translate well to Pac10.   She is a good pitcher, a good hitter, but not the #1 for a major program.   Talk on her was similar to the talk on Jessica Hall for UCLA three years ago... good backup pitcher, very good hitter.   It is the tragic loss of the other Fall 2012 recruit that took away the program's targeted #1 pitcher.  And just as Hall was forced prematurely into the #1 slot with the injury to Macon in 2011, Bowling and Pinon were forced into a larger role, sooner, than was expected because of the red shirting of Fowler.

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Anyone have recent video of Floyd?
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Unfortunately for Floyd she most likely will see very limited innings this year on FC, just like last year. Tough to sit for three months then jump into the Pac.
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Spaz......You are so true, for a girl so big her velocity is not there. Arizona likes tall girls and that is what they got. As for Arizona, they seem to be so impressed with eighter Batbusters or Firecrackers. When she played for Batbusters she hardly pitched and with Firecrackers it seems the same....just my observation for my first post.
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Haven't seen her a ton, but to me she seems very similar to Bailey Erwin.  Both in stature and ability.
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Candrea should sent Babcock to Colorado Mesa and Coach Abrams.
PiƱon to Texas Arlington and Coach Fox.
Bowling to Cal Lutheran and Coach Day.

So you are saying that Shelby Babcock who was recruited by top teams should now be kicked off team and sent to a DII school for one year?  Why would she do that? 

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Spaz......You are so true, for a girl so big her velocity is not there. Arizona likes tall girls and that is what they got. As for Arizona, they seem to be so impressed with eighter Batbusters or Firecrackers. When she played for Batbusters she hardly pitched and with Firecrackers it seems the same....just my observation for my first post.
Arizona is to tall girls what Al Davis was to straight-line sprinter WRs in the 1980s and '90s
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Thanks for the insight into Floyd! I am curious to see how she does. I dont recall ANYONE saying Bowling would be the next big pitcher at AZ like I've heard about Michelle Floyd (this was a blurb in the AZ paper a little while back-"Those in the softball community believe Floyd is the type of game-changer that could help Arizona win its ninth NCAA title..." 
http://azstarnet.com/sports/hansen-sunday-notebook-sadly-pac--ref-becomes-bigger-story/article_12f489cb-f4f2-5e84-be81-49f1dec2eeae.html
(Taken with a grain of salt with who the reporter is that wrote that though)
The frustrating thing with Babcock is always always the walks. CANT DEFEND WALKS. give your team a fighting chance. I will not be sad to see her go after her SR year and for the program to move on.
If what I'm hearing about KF no longer pitching is accurate though.. wow. We got a few more rebuilding years.

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can anyone offer any insight into michelle floyd? is she as good as ive heard? just curious!


Well... to be fair everyone at this point last year said Bowling would've saved the program this season.
What?  Nobody was saying that.   Bowling was never an Ace in Travel... just check out the Premier stats.   In High school she was in to top 10 in Socal, but that doesn't translate well to Pac10.   She is a good pitcher, a good hitter, but not the #1 for a major program.   Talk on her was similar to the talk on Jessica Hall for UCLA three years ago... good backup pitcher, very good hitter.   It is the tragic loss of the other Fall 2012 recruit that took away the program's targeted #1 pitcher.  And just as Hall was forced prematurely into the #1 slot with the injury to Macon in 2011, Bowling and Pinon were forced into a larger role, sooner, than was expected because of the red shirting of Fowler.


If i'm not mistaken there were articles in Arizona stating the same thing being said about Floyd now. Babcock was bad, Fowler couldn't get the ball over the plate either.... people were thinking Bowling was going to come in and be the ace. Was it a good assumption? Nope. But there were definitely people saying this

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can anyone offer any insight into michelle floyd? is she as good as ive heard? just curious!


Well... to be fair everyone at this point last year said Bowling would've saved the program this season.
What?  Nobody was saying that.   Bowling was never an Ace in Travel... just check out the Premier stats.   In High school she was in to top 10 in Socal, but that doesn't translate well to Pac10.   She is a good pitcher, a good hitter, but not the #1 for a major program.   Talk on her was similar to the talk on Jessica Hall for UCLA three years ago... good backup pitcher, very good hitter.   It is the tragic loss of the other Fall 2012 recruit that took away the program's targeted #1 pitcher.  And just as Hall was forced prematurely into the #1 slot with the injury to Macon in 2011, Bowling and Pinon were forced into a larger role, sooner, than was expected because of the red shirting of Fowler.


If i'm not mistaken there were articles in Arizona stating the same thing being said about Floyd now. Babcock was bad, Fowler couldn't get the ball over the plate either.... people were thinking Bowling was going to come in and be the ace. Was it a good assumption? Nope. But there were definitely people saying this


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"Fowler Couldn't get the ball over the plate" ????? Well, since we now know that the only pain-free season she had, was her freshman season (the same year, she led the 'Cats to the WCWS - AS A FRESHMAN), and now after back surgery, she is once again able to fully compete without the physical limitations that plagued her - I think she may be able to do a little more than getting the ball over the plate, this season.
Now, the question is; What does Cal have up their sleeve for next season? Answer: Nothing! Ninemire had her shot and now their DONE.
But, don't tune out Cal softball yet! Cal will certainly entertain us this season, with that Well rehearsed, Choreographed, Ballet type dance move, every time Kayla Taylor gets in the Batters Box (what the hell is that, anyway?)! 





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can anyone offer any insight into michelle floyd? is she as good as ive heard? just curious!


Well... to be fair everyone at this point last year said Bowling would've saved the program this season.
What?  Nobody was saying that.   Bowling was never an Ace in Travel... just check out the Premier stats.   In High school she was in to top 10 in Socal, but that doesn't translate well to Pac10.   She is a good pitcher, a good hitter, but not the #1 for a major program.   Talk on her was similar to the talk on Jessica Hall for UCLA three years ago... good backup pitcher, very good hitter.   It is the tragic loss of the other Fall 2012 recruit that took away the program's targeted #1 pitcher.  And just as Hall was forced prematurely into the #1 slot with the injury to Macon in 2011, Bowling and Pinon were forced into a larger role, sooner, than was expected because of the red shirting of Fowler.


If i'm not mistaken there were articles in Arizona stating the same thing being said about Floyd now. Babcock was bad, Fowler couldn't get the ball over the plate either.... people were thinking Bowling was going to come in and be the ace. Was it a good assumption? Nope. But there were definitely people saying this


CalRoxInYourHead44-
"Fowler Couldn't get the ball over the plate" ????? Well, since we now know that the only pain-free season she had, was her freshman season (the same year, she led the 'Cats to the WCWS - AS A FRESHMAN), and now after back surgery, she is once again able to fully compete without the physical limitations that plagued her - I think she may be able to do a little more than getting the ball over the plate, this season.
Now, the question is; What does Cal have up their sleeve for next season? Answer: Nothing! Ninemire had her shot and now their DONE.
But, don't tune out Cal softball yet! Cal will certainly entertain us this season, with that Well rehearsed, Choreographed, Ballet type dance move, every time Kayla Taylor gets in the Batters Box (what the hell is that, anyway?)! 






WOW!!!! Did you just stick up for a Arizona player instead of bash them? I can't believe it. Maybe you are actually fan of THE Arizona And...nothing? Alicia Hollowell or John Reeves developing pitchers? Our Freshman coming in are in MUCH better shape than Floyd.

As much respect as I have for Fowler (shame she has to play for a team with idiot fans like yourself) she will not lead the team to the WCWS. Poor kid has been overused since early HS, motion changed, various idiot coaches messing with her psyche at Arizona. Hollowell is going to save her this season? She needs more than her health!!




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Coach will need to bring in TWO more speedy players.
He needs speed.

And Arizona needs hitters.
A player which has not hit for 2 years (5 years) does not sound like a great coaching move. 

Better go get a much better 1st baseman then Kenzie.....
Come on.....



Wait until you see Eva Watson if you want speed.........holy cow.    The girl is unbelievable on the basepaths.  Not the best outfielder or slapper but will get better.............but fastest softball player I have EVER seen!!
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The girl is unbelievable on the basepaths.  Not the best outfielder or slapper but will get better.............but fastest softball player I have EVER seen!!

You can't steal first....

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The girl is unbelievable on the basepaths.  Not the best outfielder or slapper but will get better.............but fastest softball player I have EVER seen!!
You can't steal first....
You know what you call a slapper who can't put the ball on the ground?

A pinch-runner
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can anyone offer any insight into michelle floyd? is she as good as ive heard? just curious!


Well... to be fair everyone at this point last year said Bowling would've saved the program this season.
What?  Nobody was saying that.   Bowling was never an Ace in Travel... just check out the Premier stats.   In High school she was in to top 10 in Socal, but that doesn't translate well to Pac10.   She is a good pitcher, a good hitter, but not the #1 for a major program.   Talk on her was similar to the talk on Jessica Hall for UCLA three years ago... good backup pitcher, very good hitter.   It is the tragic loss of the other Fall 2012 recruit that took away the program's targeted #1 pitcher.  And just as Hall was forced prematurely into the #1 slot with the injury to Macon in 2011, Bowling and Pinon were forced into a larger role, sooner, than was expected because of the red shirting of Fowler.


If i'm not mistaken there were articles in Arizona stating the same thing being said about Floyd now. Babcock was bad, Fowler couldn't get the ball over the plate either.... people were thinking Bowling was going to come in and be the ace. Was it a good assumption? Nope. But there were definitely people saying this


CalRoxInYourHead44-
"Fowler Couldn't get the ball over the plate" ????? Well, since we now know that the only pain-free season she had, was her freshman season (the same year, she led the 'Cats to the WCWS - AS A FRESHMAN), and now after back surgery, she is once again able to fully compete without the physical limitations that plagued her - I think she may be able to do a little more than getting the ball over the plate, this season.
Now, the question is; What does Cal have up their sleeve for next season? Answer: Nothing! Ninemire had her shot and now their DONE.
But, don't tune out Cal softball yet! Cal will certainly entertain us this season, with that Well rehearsed, Choreographed, Ballet type dance move, every time Kayla Taylor gets in the Batters Box (what the hell is that, anyway?)! 






WOW!!!! Did you just stick up for a Arizona player instead of bash them? I can't believe it. Maybe you are actually fan of THE Arizona And...nothing? Alicia Hollowell or John Reeves developing pitchers? Our Freshman coming in are in MUCH better shape than Floyd.

As much respect as I have for Fowler (shame she has to play for a team with idiot fans like yourself) she will not lead the team to the WCWS. Poor kid has been overused since early HS, motion changed, various idiot coaches messing with her psyche at Arizona. Hollowell is going to save her this season? She needs more than her health!!






CalRoxInYourHead44-

Idiot Fans like me???? Wait a minute! This type of comment coming from someone like you, who obviously knew what it was like to listen to the Reid's non-stop barrage of comments from the stands, directed at opposing players for 4 years...! Talk about IDIOT fans...





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can anyone offer any insight into michelle floyd? is she as good as ive heard? just curious!


Well... to be fair everyone at this point last year said Bowling would've saved the program this season. Really means nothing at this point if you were good in HS or Travel Ball.



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Swingforthefence-  Arizona
25 WCWS appearances 
22 WCWS title game appearances 
8 NCAA Championship

?? don't know where you got the "Title Game Appearances" stat.  It should be Championship + Runner Up.   UofA was runner up 5 times, and Champion 8 times = 13 WCWS title game Appearances

UCLA
12 Championships:  11 (12- 1 Vacated)
Runner Up: 7
Title Game Appearances 18

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_College_World_Series

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Did that Hillenbrand thread disappear? Dunno if I have seen that before on this board
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DLA- Can u tell us exactly why the championship was vacated?

in a nutshell they cheated.
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Look up Tanya Harding (not the skater) + UCLA on the internets.
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Are you people really entertaining NYCStickball with this one?  We all know about that team. It's been discussed many times over and NYCSB surely knows about it too ... thus the prodding of Dunnin when he brought up calculation errors.
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DLA- Can u tell us exactly why the championship was vacated?
they used a scholarship from the soccer team for a player on the softball team.   Harding actually had nothing to do with it other than getting criticism for herself and the University over being a "hired gun".

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DLA- Can u tell us exactly why the championship was vacated?
they used a scholarship from the soccer team for a player on the softball team.   Harding actually had nothing to do with it other than getting criticism for herself and the University over being a "hired gun".


Actually, four soccer scholarships over two seasons were used for softball players who never played soccer.

UCLA was over the scholarship limit due to those scholarships. WIthout those players being on soccer scholarships, there would have been no financial aid for Harding.

She also enrolled in March and left school before exams. She never completed a class there, at least not during her playing career. That wasn't against NCAA rules (the soccer scholly thing was, and the women's AD tried to cover it up) but it was viewed as unethical -- in short, Harding was a ringer who came to play for a semester without being an actual student.
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Hilarious SI wrote about her in the UM should be given the Death Penalty issue
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