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3leftturns

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The Committee could change their approach but if history is an indication, you should hope Minnesota gets up to no lower than #9 in the RPI if they want that top 8 seed.
I don't see how that can happen... They will need the Georgia treatment to get 8 from what I guess at best will be 11 RPI. 129 average RPI to close the regular season...yikes
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I don't see how that can happen... They will need the Georgia treatment to get 8 from what I guess at best will be 11 RPI. 129 average RPI to close the regular season...yikes



It wouldn't be the GA treatment because UGA was #2 in the RPI. Minn is opposite (good polls, bad RPI). They have to hope a couple teams right in front of them lose several games (and it could happen with Baylor and Tennessee).

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I mean LAST year's Georgia treatment

Shoulda clarified
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It wouldn't be the GA treatment because UGA was #2 in the RPI. Minn is opposite (good polls, bad RPI). They have to hope a couple teams right in front of them lose several games (and it could happen with Baylor and Tennessee).


I think yall are talking UGA different years.
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Despite being the best team in the country, Minnesota gets no respect in the USA Today poll. Texas A&M should be lower, as they played almost all their games at home.
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What Minnesota can do is not lose any games. If they win all and win Big Ten tourney, I don't see how they could not be a top 8 seed at 54-3.  


That is what I have been saying all along, and some agree, but most tend to disagree because their RPI will continue to slide.  Upcoming schedule after Wisconsin is terrible.  And WI was a borderline top 16 team a month ago when I boldly predicted that they would host a regional.  Now??  Not so much.  
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Despite being the best team in the country, Minnesota gets no respect in the USA Today poll. Texas A&M should be lower, as they played almost all their games at home.


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Despite being the best team in the country, Minnesota gets no respect in the USA Today poll. Texas A&M should be lower, as they played almost all their games at home.


Hey - stop stealing my material!!  j/k
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Home field advantage in college softball? My 3 buddies out number your two. What a joke.
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Home field advantage in college softball? My 3 buddies out number your two. What a joke.


It isnt just the size of the crowd, although some teams can really pack em in.  Its the wear and tear due to travel.  Living out of suitcases, missing classes, not being able to sleep in your own bed.  If you had played D1 sports, you would know.  
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Once a game is tied after 6, homefield advantage becomes significant
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Once a game is tied after 6, homefield advantage becomes significant


Ask Alabama about it this past weekend. [wink]

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3leftturns

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And, needless to say, the umps are human... More calls go for the home team than for a visitor
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Midwest - wear and tear on  a twenty year old? Missing classes =+. Your own bed? Dorm or away from home apt, please. D1, D2 or rec league these kids have no fear. Your little theory doesn't hold water.

Lefty or should I say Capt'n Obvious. According to MLB stats, home teams won only 52% of all games when tied after 8 innings. Home teams have more of an advantage when out scoring the opponents in the 1st three innings. I would suppose the same holds true in NCAA softball.
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I know Im setting myself up to be pummeled by rudym. oh well. "wear and tear on a twenty year old" comment illuminates rudym and his total inability to understand college athletics. If you played, coached, or even sniffed division 1 college athletics you would never make that statement. These players play hurt most of the year and spend hours in the training room. traveling magnifies that. Little league? I guess maybe not.  D1 athletics. 100% wears you down over the course of your season. Add travel and academic demands to that and it is amazing what these athletes accomplish. in truth rudym your little theory is well i guess just ignorant.
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Oregon was #9 in RPI last year and the team they bumped out of the top 8 was Washington, who was #8 (and who they swept).

What Minnesota can do is not lose any games. If they win all and win Big Ten tourney, I don't see how they could not be a top 8 seed at 54-3.  



Shoot, who knows, Minnie and the Utes might surprise everyone and be playing June 6-7!
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Midwest - wear and tear on  a twenty year old? Missing classes =+. Your own bed? Dorm or away from home apt, please. D1, D2 or rec league these kids have no fear. Your little theory doesn't hold water.

Lefty or should I say Capt'n Obvious. According to MLB stats, home teams won only 52% of all games when tied after 8 innings. Home teams have more of an advantage when out scoring the opponents in the 1st three innings. I would suppose the same holds true in NCAA softball.
In a sport so balanced in its talent levels and where the home team wins only 54 percent of the time over a nine-inning span, 52 percent over an average span of only two extra innings is evidence of a greater advantage in having the last at-bat
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I know Im setting myself up to be pummeled by rudym. oh well. "wear and tear on a twenty year old" comment illuminates rudym and his total inability to understand college athletics. If you played, coached, or even sniffed division 1 college athletics you would never make that statement. These players play hurt most of the year and spend hours in the training room. traveling magnifies that. Little league? I guess maybe not.  D1 athletics. 100% wears you down over the course of your season. Add travel and academic demands to that and it is amazing what these athletes accomplish. in truth rudym your little theory is well i guess just ignorant.
Obviously. Rudy needs to go talk to Ara again

When you play a UCLA one weekend, a Florida another, an FSU the next, an Oklahoma the next, and so on.... it is a freaking grind

And, believe it or not, many of these games are played on the road, many hundreds of miles away

The rest of the time... 15-hour days galore...
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These kids are overachievers...high function = high grindability.  Plus, young and strong and not jaded!
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We are talking college softball, right? Not too many 8 hour bus rides 3x a week ala the minor leagues. Lefty, if you are playing  UCLA, Florida, FSU AND Oklahoma back to back to back, then you're either in the WCWS or a pre-season tournament. If I recall correctly, conference games are weekend events. IF and only IF you are  a current or former college softball player, then your personal experience is not relevant. Do I admire and respect these athletes - absolutely. Are they cheating death on a weekly bases - no. BTW I have 3 wives and a kid, so don't complain to me about your D1 struggles.
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"BTW I have 3 wives and a kid, so don't complain to me about your D1 struggles."

That explains everything.




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Midwest - wear and tear on  a twenty year old? Missing classes =+. Your own bed? Dorm or away from home apt, please. D1, D2 or rec league these kids have no fear. Your little theory doesn't hold water.


So let me get this straight.  Minneapolis to Austin, Texas.  Play 5 games in three days. Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later, Minneapolis to Raleigh, NC.  Play 4 games in two days.  Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later Minneapolis to Fresno, CA.  Play 5 games in three days.  Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later, Minneapolis to Baton Rouge, LA.  Play 4 games in two days.  Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later, Minneapolis to Seattle, WA. Play five games in three days.  Next day play at Corvallis, OR. Then travel to Berkeley, Ca to play one game.  Travel to Stockton, CA to play two more.  And then return to Minneapolis.  Then begin conference play by playing at Lincoln, NE and Champaign, IL before finally having a home game.

Nonconference travel (approx 26 games) Feb 10 - March 19

Gophers -  15,000 miles
Louisiana - 0 miles (relax, I like the program. Just pointing out the difference)

Piece of cake, right??
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So let me get this straight.  Minneapolis to Austin, Texas.  Play 5 games in three days. Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later, Minneapolis to Raleigh, NC.  Play 4 games in two days.  Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later Minneapolis to Fresno, CA.  Play 5 games in three days.  Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later, Minneapolis to Baton Rouge, LA.  Play 4 games in two days.  Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later, Minneapolis to Seattle, WA. Play five games in three days.  Next day play at Corvallis, OR. Then travel to Berkeley, Ca to play one game.  Travel to Stockton, CA to play two more.  And then return to Minneapolis.  Then begin conference play by playing at Lincoln, NE and Champaign, IL before finally having a home game.

Nonconference travel (approx 26 games) Feb 10 - March 19

Gophers -  15,000 miles
Louisiana - 0 miles (relax, I like the program. Just pointing out the difference)

Piece of cake, right??



Good God, we KNOW it's a grind, but guess what?  These kids knew it coming in AND there is no place they'd rather be than grinding it out. In fact, they flourish under this grind or they fall back...quite simple! Sheesh, modern society has become so soft I swear!

It really is survival of the fittest, always has been.
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janie, I think that midwest piled up that post just to respond to the whacko who -- though with a somewhat hieroglyphic posting -- was seeming to say that it isn't a grind at all
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janie, I think that midwest piled up that post just to respond to the whacko who -- though with a somewhat hieroglyphic posting -- was seeming to say that it isn't a grind at all



I agree but what I think whacko Rudy was saying is that sure it's a grind but it's a grind they can and do love and handle pretty easily once adjusted.  

I mean you want to know what  a grind is?  Ask a medical student what grinding it out is all about...it's all relative to your place in the world.
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So let me get this straight.  Minneapolis to Austin, Texas.  Play 5 games in three days. Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later, Minneapolis to Raleigh, NC.  Play 4 games in two days.  Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later Minneapolis to Fresno, CA.  Play 5 games in three days.  Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later, Minneapolis to Baton Rouge, LA.  Play 4 games in two days.  Back to Minneapolis.  A few days later, Minneapolis to Seattle, WA. Play five games in three days.  Next day play at Corvallis, OR. Then travel to Berkeley, Ca to play one game.  Travel to Stockton, CA to play two more.  And then return to Minneapolis.  Then begin conference play by playing at Lincoln, NE and Champaign, IL before finally having a home game.

Nonconference travel (approx 26 games) Feb 10 - March 19

Gophers -  15,000 miles
Louisiana - 0 miles (relax, I like the program. Just pointing out the difference)

Piece of cake, right??


Just to let you know, this year's travel is an aberration, although with the physical issues Coach Lotief is currently going through they are more likely to try to limit long trips. We did travel to Oregon a couple of years back and used to do the Judi Garman every year. We've kind of gone to locations where we can travel by bus and I don't see that changing in the near future. Some of it is also related to being able to get some of the high RPI conferences to travel to Lafayette now which was impossible 5-6 years ago.
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I would respond but it's my day off and game time starts in 20 minutes and I am all jacked up to watch the Gophers play Bucky Badger (Big 10 Network I think) and take their next step towards the number one overall seed (a little hyperbole for effect is kind of my trademark).  
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I agree but what I think whacko Rudy was saying is that sure it's a grind
I didn't see any of that
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Just to let you know, this year's travel is an aberration, although with the physical issues Coach Lotief is currently going through they are more likely to try to limit long trips. We did travel to Oregon a couple of years back and used to do the Judi Garman every year. We've kind of gone to locations where we can travel by bus and I don't see that changing in the near future. Some of it is also related to being able to get some of the high RPI conferences to travel to Lafayette now which was impossible 5-6 years ago.
And, coach Lotief was unable to travel to Oregon also. Totally makes sense
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Is it a grind, damn skippy it is. Are you under intense pressure daily, check. Do you love what you do? If so, you'll never work a day in your life. All of us on this board realizes through one form or another what it takes to get to this level - talent, drive and an unshakable self confidence. Lacking in one of these areas and you are exposed. YES, IT CAN BE DAUNTING AND OVERWELMING, NEVER SAID OTHERWISE. But it's not Coal Miners U and it sure as hell beats a 9 to 5. I could only imagine working for some of you. These are the crème de la crème of college softball. And like it or not there are tens of thousands of kids begging to take your place. Most will never make it, but there are just  enough of them to send one to the pine should you slack off. I love women's fast pitch  at all levels. Just don't tell me how rough it is on little Suzie.
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