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PDad

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Southern Poverty Law Center president, Richard Cohen, condemned antifa and I can't find any LSM links to it.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/southern-poverty-law-center-condemns-antifa-but-wont-call-hate-group/article/2633252

I was surprised to find this picture on SPLC's website - blacks supporting confederate symbols as heritage...

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Agree.  Did you see where DHS and FBI has already declared Antifa as Domestic Terrorists?  Why would Dewe... errrr will_i_getconfused still be backing them at this point?


Why is it so important to you to portray us as 1 person? I don't get it.

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From NoKo thread since Fresh claimed he doesn''t remember them...

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I don't trust your sources.

LMAO I provided CNN and VOX - are you disavowing them now? TFF

CNN: Post #64 - 


VOX: Post #208 - 
http://www.vox.com/2017/8/25/16189064/antifa-charlottesville-activism-mark-bray-interview

This is your freebie, Fresh. You'll have to look it up next time you conveniently have a senior CRS moment.
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Watched it. Agree that some factions have anarchy as a secondary objective. Saw nothing in the video about being communist. The members are mostly young and disenfranchised, unable to find a political entity that fits their ideals. Ideals are key here as they are young with little experience to draw from. I guess it appears exciting and at least to them, they are doing something. Agree with anti fascist sentiment, hopefully, as they age, they will drop the violence.
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Watched it. Agree that some factions have anarchy as a secondary objective. Saw nothing in the video about being communist.

Read the VOX article - Bray makes the point multiple times.
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antifa = neo-communists
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One of the arguments I make in the book is that while analytically that's a conversation worth having, I don’t know of any empirical examples of anti-fascists successfully stopping a neo-Nazi group and then moving on to other groups that are not racist but merely to the right. What tends to happen is they disband once they've successfully marginalized or eliminated the local right-wing extremist threat, and then return to what they normally do — organizing unions, doing environmental activism, etc.


It’s also important to remember that these are self-described revolutionaries. They’re anarchists and communists who are way outside the traditional conservative-liberal spectrum. They’re not interested in and don’t feel constrained by conventional norms.

They are also young and full of idealistic bullsh1t. Communism has always held an allure to young, impressionable minds that don't know any better. How much influence do you think the communist party currently has in America? Anarchy....tear down the current government and rebuild it from scratch. Who does that sound like? Bannon? Trump? Note they go on to other causes once the nazis are vanquished. If Bray is right. Might be wrong.

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Watched it. Agree that some factions have anarchy as a secondary objective. Saw nothing in the video about being communist. The members are mostly young and disenfranchised, unable to find a political entity that fits their ideals. Ideals are key here as they are young with little experience to draw from. I guess it appears exciting and at least to them, they are doing something. Agree with anti fascist sentiment, hopefully, as they age, they will drop the violence.

Antifa here is communist.  I know many of them. 

Do you find it funny, that they started a group to oppose fascism, and basically adopted a fascist approach to their lives?  Gotta be more than young to fall into that stupidity.
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antifa = neo-communists

They are Global Communists.   If you actually ask them.  They openly state that the only way to get communism to stick is to force the whole world to adopt it.
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One of the arguments I make in the book is that while analytically that's a conversation worth having, I don’t know of any empirical examples of anti-fascists successfully stopping a neo-Nazi group and then moving on to other groups that are not racist but merely to the right. What tends to happen is they disband once they've successfully marginalized or eliminated the local right-wing extremist threat, and then return to what they normally do — organizing unions, doing environmental activism, etc.

It’s also important to remember that these are self-described revolutionaries. They’re anarchists and communists who are way outside the traditional conservative-liberal spectrum. They’re not interested in and don’t feel constrained by conventional norms.

They are also young and full of idealistic bullsh1t. Communism has always held an allure to young, impressionable minds that don't know any better. How much influence do you think the communist party currently has in America? Anarchy....tear down the current government and rebuild it from scratch. Who does that sound like? Bannon? Trump? Note they go on to other causes once the nazis are vanquished. If Bray is right. Might be wrong.

They go back to promoting communism.

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They go back to promoting communism.



Didn't see that in the article you asked me to read.

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Didn't see that in the article you asked me to read.

"return to what they normally do — organizing unions, doing environmental activism, etc."
There it is...
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They other key point, which probably isn’t made enough, is that these are revolutionary leftists. They’re not concerned about the fact that fascism targets liberalism. These are self-described revolutionaries. They have no allegiance to liberal democracy, which they believe has failed the marginalized communities they’re defending. They’re anarchists and communists who are way outside the traditional conservative-liberal spectrum.

Fresh - Which part of "revolutionary communists" do you not understand? By definition, revolutionaries pursue their objectives - theirs is communism.
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And they grow up, mature, get jobs and realize communism is not as idyllic as they thought. 
You never answered me about the strength and influence of the communist party in America and how it affects your life.

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And they grow up, mature, get jobs and realize communism is not as idyllic as they thought. 
Many were involved in Occupy movement and haven't grown up. You're applying past behaviors to people that grew up in a more leftist society.

You never answered me about the strength and influence of the communist party in America and how it affects your life.

I don't recall seeing it - please provide link to it... Anyway, you didn't answer my questions on immigration.
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Anyway, you didn't answer my questions on immigration.

http://robocoach.websitetoolbox.com/post/immigration-2014-6940875?pid=1300021576
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- Do you believe the US should control immigration? Yes

- If so, how should it be enforced (e.g. borders, interior)? 
Don't think 'the wall' has any impact. Surveilance, patrols, drones. Stricter laws on employment. I hear a lot of complaining about illegals taking American jobs, but that won't happen if employers refuse to hire them. I'd support penalties for the employers also. Evidently our overseas vetting is sufficient. Border countries must take more responsibility for punishing people deported. Stricter penalties for repeat offenders. I consider S American countries with people entering our country through Mexico as border when dealing with deportation. 

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- Do you believe the US should control immigration? Yes

- If so, how should it be enforced (e.g. borders, interior)? 
Don't think 'the wall' has any impact. Surveilance, patrols, drones. Stricter laws on employment. I hear a lot of complaining about illegals taking American jobs, but that won't happen if employers refuse to hire them. I'd support penalties for the employers also. Evidently our overseas vetting is sufficient. Border countries must take more responsibility for punishing people deported. Stricter penalties for repeat offenders. I consider S American countries with people entering our country through Mexico as border when dealing with deportation. 

Mexico is not going to take anymore responsibility for this mess.  What's your next idea?
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I was asked. Asked and answered. 
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- Do you believe the US should control immigration? Yes

- If so, how should it be enforced (e.g. borders, interior)? 
Don't think 'the wall' has any impact. Surveilance, patrols, drones. Stricter laws on employment. I hear a lot of complaining about illegals taking American jobs, but that won't happen if employers refuse to hire them. I'd support penalties for the employers also. Evidently our overseas vetting is sufficient. Border countries must take more responsibility for punishing people deported. Stricter penalties for repeat offenders. I consider S American countries with people entering our country through Mexico as border when dealing with deportation. 

Thanks. I'll respond to post on proper thread.
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Will KPI be there with free strap on exhibitions?
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kpi and her bae like to wear the oil. Miami is purrfect for those grrrrrrrrrrlz.
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Miami is a greasy cesspool. Never going back there
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Miami is a greasy cesspool. Never going back there


I may take your zero star rating and NEVER go there period.  I was going back to the Keys but they may be gone after this weekend

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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Antifa attach police in Portland: 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/10/antifa-throws-smoke-and-projectiles-at-police-at-portland-rallies-7-arrested.html
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Going to be fun the next few weeks in Berkley.  
Ben Shapiro is giving a talk.  Going to laugh my arse off when antifa calls him a Nazi.  Shapiro is fricking jewish you slow thinkers. 

Then Bannon, Coulter, Milo and possibly Alex Jones are talking about giving a talk. 

Going to be fun watching Antifags crossing lines and getting Guantanmoed. 
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I may take your zero star rating and NEVER go there period.  I was going back to the Keys but they may be gone after this weekend


Follow your better nature and stay away.

The glitzy metrosexual areas are cool for glitzy metrosexual types.

I had a meeting downtown for work, and the homeless people were scary - like none I'd seen before (see them ALL the time in ATL) - looked like zombies with no soul who would kill you for a nickel.

I went to look at a project, and the police followed us into the neighborhood.  They finally pulled us over, and asked why we there.  They told us we had gone deep enough - we had to turn around, as they could no longer guarantee our safety.  They escorted us out.

That neighborhood was definitely scary.  Not your run of the mill poor place (again - see those plenty) with the occasional bad apple.  This place was gangs of different nationalities, about two blocks at a time.  There were warning signs painted by locals to let you know you were entering their turf.

Of course, the average tourist isn't looking to bid on a Dade County urban renewal project, so they'd never see that.  We decided that hiring a small army to protect our workers made us cost-uncompetitive, so we passed.

Anyways - not a place I care for.


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"

Ben Shapiro supporter was stabbed in the neck by Antifa terrorists last night in Berekley CA. This brave young lady was holding a sign supporting Ben Shapiro when she was yanked down from a light post then beaten and stabbed by left wing terrorist.

Make all the jokes you want about these Leftist Commies.. There is one thing that's not a joke. That's The level of hatred they have for patriots and conservatives. Make no mistake. These demons will firing squad every one of us without a shred of guilt. They are sick, evil beasts and our country is full of them. Never allow yourself to be lulled into a false sense of security when these demons are near. Please pray for this young woman.

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https://www.facebook.com/kyle.chapman.543792/posts/10154719041742651

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Recently a man lied about being stabbed by a leftist.  The Berkeley stabbing might be another fabricated story.  Stay tuned.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/28/denver-area-arrest-neo-nazi-stabbing/

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