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pabar61

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Dewey and other liberals will never comment about the obvious hypocrisy of their thinking.

Muslims, one constituency they love, brutally murder 50 gays, another constituency they protect at all costs, and their infantile response is to blame the guns.

Hillary takes millions in donations from countries that openly espouse hatred of homosexuals and not a peep from liberals or from the mainstream media.  No doubt, Dewey is doing research to see if Trump has taken money from any of these same countries.  In his mind, that makes it okay for Hillary.
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Dewey is waiting for his handler to tell him how to respond.
TylerDurden

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I believe his stance in the past has been as long as the CGI is doing good things with the money, it doesn't matter where it comes from.

I could be wrong about this.
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KIR, is that you talking in the video?
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Put about 14" of hair on that dude and pretty close.  I am guilty of being white, for that I apologize.  
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CoachB25

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I just received a phone call/message at home.  The call came from California and so, when I saw the incoming call, I let it go to the answering machine.  It was about voters and voter registration.  It ask if I knew that undocumented workers pay taxes and that they should have the ability to vote in the upcoming elections.  It finished with some statement about a "path to citizenship." 
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CoachB - One Conservative told me Obama and the Democrats have absolutely no interest in legalizing the undocumented.  He based his argument on the fact he could have done it 30 days after he took office if that is what he wanted.

Another Conservative told me President Obama wants to legalize the undocumented and turn them into voters, as you just suggested here. 

I ask you, which of these guys do you believe has it right?

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I don't believe either has it totally right.  I say the left wants to legalize the undocumented.  In San Francisco, according to a search I did after the phone call, the Mayor is calling for the right of undocumented aliens to vote.  I am guessing that this phone call was from a leftist group.  When talking about a path to citizenship that is a mantra straight from the left.  So, are you saying that the left is not calling for this?  Dewey, a google search of that topic will produce pages of efforts to allow illegal aliens the right to either vote or become citizens. 
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CoachB - I do believe the Left in generals wants to legalize most of these undocumented and ultimately help them become citizens.  I was more interested in what your side believes.

Do you believe Obama doesn't want to legalize the undocumented.  If yes, please explain why he didn't get Congress to pass a law 30 days after taking office.

Forget about "totally".  Who is giving me the straight truth, the guy who says Obama doesn't really want to legalize the undocumented or the guy who is telling me Obama does want to see most of them become legalized?  Taking both sides of the argument, two Conservatives.  Which one has it right in your opinion?

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Obama fought a national fight to get his health care program passed.  That is why he didn't fulfill other campaign promises.  He would do it in a minute.  It was just announced that now his administration is going to "fast track" Syrian Refugees into this country.  Why?  He is a lame duck and so, is now trying to get done his agenda on anything that does not require Congress. 
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Quote:
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I was more interested in what your side believes.



Thank you Captain Obvious, to infinity and beyond

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Obama fought a national fight to get his health care program passed.  That is why he didn't fulfill other campaign promises.  Two things can be done at once.  This one didn't have 100% Democrat support to get done.  He would do it in a minute.  I agree.  But the reason it wasn't done is he didn't have the votes.  Despite the fact Dems controlled both houses, he didn't have the votes.  Once the gang of eight drew up a compromise bill, then the votes were there.  It was just announced that now his administration is going to "fast track" Syrian Refugees into this country.  Why?  He is a lame duck and so, is now trying to get done his agenda on anything that does not require Congress. 


CoachB - I agree with you on the legalization agenda.  The Conservative who told me Obama wasn't/isn't interested in legalizing most of these undocumented is wrong, imo.  I think most on your side would agree with you that Obama would do it in a minute.

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There is no guarantee he had the votes. Another falacy presented to the readers as fact.
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Tyler - One can't prove a negative.  One could also say Obama could have passed single payer and nobody could prove otherwise since no vote was ever taken.  The point I was making is few Conservatives believe as you do that Obama has no interest in helping the undocumented gain legalization.  Most are like CoachB and suggest he'd do it in a minute.  I just thought I'd try to find out if others agreed with you.

Don't get me wrong as I fully expect Conservatives to disagree on various issues.  There's no problem with that and it's to be expected.  It's the anti-Democrat charges on issues where Republicans agree sith Dems that amuses me.  Let me give you a couple more examples.

I think I've proven there are several Conservatives inside here who will agree there are some arms that can and should be banned, without violating the Constitution.  Yet many try to say it's only Democrats that are so called "gun grabbers".  Clearly that's not true.  We may differ on how far we should go but banning certain arms is not a one Party position.

Another example is on immigration reform.  Several in here favor legalizing many of the undocumented in this Country.  However, the ongoing charge is that Democrats are the ones who want to allow undocumented to remain in this Country.  This is simply another false charge since many Republicans also want to legalize these people.  I just like to point these facts out for the readers when I get the chance.  Nothing wrong with having a position, or opinion, different than others on your side.  It's the blame only one side game that's odd.


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I think he could have done it if he chose to, like Coach said, he had other priorities. Only you would deny that. I bet Hillary is happy he kept it as a campaign issue, although it's hard to tell if it's working.

You keep saying he had the votes, and there is no proof he did. the fact that you keep saying it shows how out of touch with factual conversation you are.

I'm done with this rabbit hole - cheers!
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Tyler - You're conflating two different discussions.

First, you say Obama could have passed immigration reform in first year. Did I call that a lie? No. I'm thinking that's your opinion and I think you're wrong. As CoachB says, Obama would have loved to legalize these folks in a minute.

The other issue is the House vote on the already passed by Senate gang of eight bill. I say the votes were there in the House and you call it a lie. Looks like you are the only one entitled to have an opinion. That aside, my opinion is supported by the non-vote in the House. The speaker knew it would pass so he didn't allow a vote. (Again, that's another opinion of mine. We are entitled to opinions too.)

Edit- I see while I was typing my post you edited and withdrew your accusation of me lying. Thank you for reconsidering your choice of words.

Edit II - But no thanks for accusing me of being out of touch. I take it you needed a parting shot as you left.

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keepinitreal

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Coach do you need the UCS hijack cleanser or will we be able to rid the thread from the dewy pest without it?
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Put about 14" of hair on that dude and pretty close.  I am guilty of being white, for that I apologize.  
Have we met?


No, just curious.
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dietwatereddown coke, some help here please.  Stay away from snopes, however

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That's purty bad. But even so, Congressional hearings should be held. A newly created department of the FBAA (Federal Bureau of Alligator Awareness) should be funded with billions of taxpayer dollars, and a couple of million new Federal Employees could leave their part time private sector fast food jobs and be added to the public tax rolls.
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keepinitreal

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Most libtards and especially Hussein obama, support illegal immigration while ignoring the detriment it does to our citizens.  Hussein obama sorry legacy will live with us for years to come.  Our nation is much worse off with the eight year reign of terror wrought on us by valerie jarrett and hussein obama.

ILLEGAL ALIEN MURDERS 5 PEOPLE IN LOS ANGELES

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Places like San Francisco take a lot of flak for being “sanctuary cities” that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration officials, but the reality is the entire country is a sanctuary for illegal aliens. Thanks to Obama’s complete lack of immigration enforcement, scumbags who shouldn’t be here are free to roam about, killing Americans at will. In fact, an illegal alien who should have been deported just murdered 5 people in Southern California.

Fox News reports that 5 people are dead after illegal alien Johnny Sanchez set a blaze at an abandoned building in Los Angeles. The 21-year-old Honduran citizen apparently got into a fight with some homeless people who were squatting in the building on Monday. In a completely reasonable conflict resolution, Sanchez torched the place, killing five. Their badly burned bodies were recovered on Tuesday after firefighters were able to extinguish the inferno.

The thing about Sanchez is, immigration officials were well aware of him. In 2012 he was arrested at the US/Mexico border trying to sneak in. Rather than turn him back, Border Patrol agents released him into America and the reason is seriously messed up. Check this out:

Authorities said they released him because he had no criminal history or previous immigration violations at the time.

Isn’t illegally crossing the border an immigration violation? I guess not in Obama’s America.

In any case, Sanchez was given a pat on the back and told to behave himself. He of course did not behave himself. First, he was told that he needed to check in with immigration officials, which he stopped doing in 2014. Then, in January of this year he was arrested for beating the schitt out of his domestic partner. Following that, he was arrested several times on drug charges.

None of this criminal behavior sent up red flags to the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency for some reason:

Immigration and Customs Enforcement never started the process of deporting him, spokeswoman Virginia Kice said, adding that the reason why was unclear. She told the newspaper it’s ICE policy “to focus on individuals who pose a public safety threat.”

Really? The geniuses at ICE can’t see how a drug-addicted domestic abusing illegal alien might pose a risk to public safety? Perhaps the agency should engage in some additional risk assessment training. No one in their right mind could think that a violent drug-abusing unemployed illegal alien was coming here to do good things.

Sanchez was arrested and charged with 5 counts of capitol murder. Amazingly enough, he is being held without bail. Considering the easy treatment he has received up until this point, I’m surprised they didn’t release him on his own recognizance.

According to the news, Sanchez is eligible for the death penalty, but that is laughable. This is California we are talking about. While the state technically has the death penalty, they don’t actually use it. Sanchez will sit in prison for the rest of his days (maybe) and enjoy amenities far beyond the life he would have had as an illegal alien bum. The system works!


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ForeverInBlue

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Obama's policies have consequences.

Five more murders b

Congrats Mr Greatest Ever, hope you enjoy bathing in blood.
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I just read that ICE just did a raid in the St. Louis Metro East. 34 illegal aliens were arrested. 24 of them have been arrested in the U.S. and yet, were not deported. That is the Democrat Party's way of gaining voters/votes.
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There's no way to know from the article I read but it's possible they were deported during the Bush Administration and came back during the Bush Administration.  It also doesn't say when the arrests took place.  In any event, kudos to ICE for focusing on the criminal undocumented rather than spending resources on otherwise law-abiding undocumented young adults who have been here for years.  I hope those who think Obama is doing nothing take note of these arrests.

http://www.bnd.com/news/local/article84383047.html

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keepinitreal

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settled, libtard said Bush probably did it.  Further proof that the Post-Bush dickhead in chief accomplished nothing in 8 years 

Of course the article mentions nothing to support the libtard's claim so he just makes the schitt up

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CoachB - A majority of Republicans want to legalize the undocumented just like we Democrats.  I think it's more about the well being of these individuals, this Country, and our economy, and has little to do with potential voters.
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CoachB - A majority of Republicans want to legalize the undocumented just like we Democrats.  I think it's more about the well being of these individuals, this Country, and our economy, and has little to do with potential voters.


Dewey, where did you see this poll?  I've never heard a major of Republicans/Conservatives be in favor of this.  I've often stated on this site the opinion in my area and it isn't conducive to legalizing illegal aliens who have violated the laws of this nation by coming here illegally.

Your statement is not representative in this article:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/immigration_update
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