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Do you know anything about insurance?  Why should the individual markets be different than employer based plans. In employer based plans, the young and healthy pay the same premiums as the old and more likely to be sick. Are you raising your hand and volunteering for your portion of health insurance premiums to get higher and higher as you get older and your health care costs increase?

Employees pay the same because the employer pays the same - it's called composite rates and it's the norm for group plans.

BTW, many employers are moving from group plans to a defined benefit that helps employees buy insurance on the individual market. The net cost for employees usually vary with these.
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Bama, you really don't have an understanding of the business world, do you? It's OK. I know a ton of people from all walks of life that are happy to just draw a paycheck, but have little to no interest, nor understanding of the painful process of how that paycheck is generated. It's OK, just take a walk down the easy path, and let others do the heavy thinking. It is far better for everyone involved in signing your check, that you would remain thus so, rather than have any input on the matter. Ignorance is indeed bliss. I would even go so far as to encourage it in your case.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/12/black-minnesota-teacher-says-district-discriminated-against-him-for-questioning-race-based-programs.html



A black Minnesota teacher is fighting back against the St. Paul Public School district, which he said has discriminated against him for questioning race-based educational programs, according to a federal lawsuit.

“I filed the lawsuit because the EEOC found probable cause that I was retaliated and racially discriminated for speaking up,” Aaron Benner, who taught fourth grade and now is a Dean of Students (9th Grade) at Cretin-Derham Hall,  told Fox News.

“The irony is the racial discrimination charge. My district always talks about racial equity, and then they got caught going after the only black teacher in the school. I had five frivolous investigations opened up on me."

 

The district allegedly targeted Benner after he publicly criticized the school’s race-based policies, which, according to EAGNews.org, a non-profit organization that promotes education reform, were a direct result of an Obama administration initiative that forced school districts to address disproportionate percentages of minority students being suspended for bad behavior.

Benner – an independent – said it’s not about politics, but rather right and wrong.

“My main problem was that data was being manipulated to keep the numbers low for behavioral referrals when in reality they were going up,” Benner said. “That’s fraud and unethical.”

Benner told Fox News in 2015 that he was punched by a student, and the student was sent back to the classroom within minutes, without any disciplinary action taken.

Benner blamed the San Francisco-based consulting firm Pacific Educational Group, hired by the district in 2010, for conducting “some sort of social experiment” on the students.

“PEG makes no secret of the fact that its prescription for closing the gap is based on the Critical Race Theory,” he wrote in a 2015 op-ed. “This theory argues that racism is so ingrained in the American way of life – its economy, schools, and government – that things must be made unequal in order to compensate for that racism.”

He added: “PEG pushes the idea that black students are victims of white school policies that make it difficult or impossible for them to learn. So, when a black student is disruptive, PEG, as I see it, stresses that it’s not their fault.”

“We don’t have any disciplinary policies that we incorporate in any district whatsoever,” PEG spokesman Kevin Cartwright told Fox News.

St. Paul NAACP Vice President Joel Franklin called it “very disturbing” that the district would go after Benner for “simply voicing concern” about the program, according to the Star Tribune.

“This is going to hamper any efforts to recruit other African-American teachers,” Franklin said.

Saint Paul Public Schools told Fox News they do not comment on pending litigation.

Although U.S. District Judge Susan Nelson indicated the case may be ending soon in a settlement, Benner said he’s willing to go as long as it takes.

“I’m confident that justice will prevail,” Benner said. “I’m in it for the long haul.”


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They get a card, a free lunch account, and don't have to be bothered to jump through hoops. Heck, our ISD has problems getting the parents to fill out a form for free lunches. I think the Houston ISD just gives out free meals 3 times a day to anyone that walks through the line, no questions asked.
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Bama, you really don't have an understanding of the business world, do you? It's OK. I know a ton of people from all walks of life that are happy to just draw a paycheck, but have little to no interest, nor understanding of the painful process of how that paycheck is generated. It's OK, just take a walk down the easy path, and let others do the heavy thinking. It is far better for everyone involved in signing your check, that you would remain thus so, rather than have any input on the matter. Ignorance is indeed bliss. I would even go so far as to encourage it in your case.



This post is akin to Butch Jones telling a much better and more knowledgeable coach they don't really have an understanding of college football. My understanding of the business world runs circles around yours.

-I have worked my entire life, earning my paycheck, paying my taxes.
-I'm a CPA. I know all about how finances work, about payroll deductions, about how folks qualify for assistance, and how they get it. 
-In my line of work, facts are required - not hyperbole from back woods people who love to go around talking about every anecdotal instance of people abusing the system. 
-People abuse every system, of course. But the fact is that the dollars which go to individuals due to entitlement and similar programs that go to well bodied people just seeking the "easy path" is a tiny tiny sliver of the US budget. 
-The interest we have to pay on the national debt alone is staggering. Our out of control debt situation began with Reagan big time, continued thru the elder Bush, was horrendous during the George W Bush years and even more horrendous during Obama years. Only Bill Clinton managed a growing economy that reduced the national debt instead of increased it. Point is these dollars dwarf that which outrages you - and the notion that the GOP are better stewards of our money is a joke. 
-The dollars lost from the wealthy criminals who run the banking system, hedge funds, and huge corrupt money system far outpace the activities which enrage you. The tax breaks and given to the most wealthy and their tax cheating for outpaces the activities which you rage about (in terms of total dollars). 

The fact is you people exaggerate abuses they see and flat out make up others. Conservatives will just say whatever and pass along whatever they hear as fact. They just give away meals to whoever with no documentation. Did you know that woman can keep having babies and make more money than someone who has a full time job?  LOL  


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http://www.khou.com/news/local/hisd-students-to-receive-three-free-meals-a-day-for-2017-2018-school-year/469242616
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HOUSTON -- The Houston Independent School District announced Wednesday all students will eat all school meals for free during the 2017-2018 school year.

The approval came from the United States Department of Agriculture and the Texas Department of Agriculture to waive the required application process for the National School Lunch/Breakfast Program.

HISD says the free meals come in the wake of flooding from Tropical Storm Harvey.

“Despite the federal waiver, HISD is still asking parents and guardians to complete and return the application,” HISD stated in a press release. “The National School Lunch/School Breakfast Program applications and surveys are available at https://mealapps.houstonisd.org. They can also be accessed by visiting the HISD Nutrition Services website and clicking on the “One Form Means So Much” button on the right side of the page. The information received in the forms helps the district to secure funding and track student data.”

 “The flooding that is affecting the city of Houston has been devastating to so many. Some of the areas that are the hardest hit are filled with working parents whose limited funds will need to go toward recovery efforts,” said Houston ISD Superintendent Richard Carranza. “This waiver will give our families one less concern as they begin the process of restoring their lives. It will also provide a sense of normalcy by allowing students to have access to up to three nutritious meals each and every school day.”

 The waiver will take effect immediately, allowing students to take advantage of free meals when school resumes.


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This post is akin to Butch Jones telling a much better and more knowledgeable coach they don't really have an understanding of college football. My understanding of the business world runs circles around yours.

-I have worked my entire life, earning my paycheck, paying my taxes.
-I'm a CPA. I know all about how finances work, about payroll deductions, about how folks qualify for assistance, and how they get it. 
-In my line of work, facts are required - not hyperbole from back woods people who love to go around talking about every anecdotal instance of people abusing the system. 
-People abuse every system, of course. But the fact is that the dollars which go to individuals due to entitlement and similar programs that go to well bodied people just seeking the "easy path" is a tiny tiny sliver of the US budget. 
-The interest we have to pay on the national debt alone is staggering. Our out of control debt situation began with Reagan big time, continued thru the elder Bush, was horrendous during the George W Bush years and even more horrendous during Obama years. Only Bill Clinton managed a growing economy that reduced the national debt instead of increased it. Point is these dollars dwarf that which outrages you - and the notion that the GOP are better stewards of our money is a joke. 
-The dollars lost from the wealthy criminals who run the banking system, hedge funds, and huge corrupt money system far outpace the activities which enrage you. The tax breaks and given to the most wealthy and their tax cheating for outpaces the activities which you rage about (in terms of total dollars). 

The fact is you people exaggerate abuses they see and flat out make up others. Conservatives will just say whatever and pass along whatever they hear as fact. They just give away meals to whoever with no documentation. Did you know that woman can keep having babies and make more money than someone who has a full time job?  LOL  





And just what happened to those under the previous administration? They got rich as hell as the Fed pumped nonexistent money into the very pockets the whole democrat party rails against. Also what happened to the purchasing power of the dollars of the poor?

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I'm all for attacking the main problem with our deficit spending. It's SS and Medicare spending that are bankrupting us.

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Yes on debt and deficit.  Yes that will take reigning in SS and Medicare out of control.  Also Ocare which Trump just took a major hack at.

While bamaturd rails against the money we lose to debt related interest servicing, dewillie says that public debt is good for America.  Can you two rectify that difference.

I disagree Reagan created mass debt.  He was handed almost as bad a situation as Obama.  He did a much better job of pulling us out and handing Clinton a great hard working economy.  Clinton did great growing our economy as well.  

GW Bush not so much, but his biggest mistake was letting Dodd Frank over run him with their Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae housing programs that caused the biggest single reduction in wealth in the history of mankind.

Debt equals bad, and nothing taught us that more than the housing crises of 2008. 


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Santa Ana unified, in SoCal, decided it was too much work to process the free lunch paperwork so they just give it out to any kid in school. 3 a day just like Woody stated. In Santa Ana the district is almost all children of illegals
Suck it BamaTard you live in a liberal bubble with no idea what the policies you love are doing in the real world.

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Many of the schools in the armpit county (Riverside, Inland Empire) of So Cal I live in are also what we call 'free and reduced lunch' schools. Everyone eats as much as they want, no paperwork required. The amount of food that goes straight into the garbage cans is staggering.
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Well, Bama we produced the news release about 3 free meals a day with no paperwork required. Care to refute what the agriculture department is doing? It's called handouts at taxpayer expense. No it's not a huge slice of the budget, but if you take into account the number of government employees, their compensation, insurance, and the expense in operating the buildings they work in, I bet the cost triples, or quadruples, not to mention the cost of state and local employees distributing the grants, (taxpayer money). Care to take another swipe at the real cost of government handouts?
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Yeah.....here, here. Most prosperous country in the world shouldn't be expected to feed it's children. What a fukked up idea. I don't care how much food is thrown away, feed our children. I bet the ones who have this one decent meal a day aren't throwing it away. You people are sick. I would hope food could be the one thing we could agree on. But of course no, the little buggers just throw it all away. Sure they do.
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No, you are sick supporting irresponsible socialist handouts of taxpayer funds to any person that shows up. Don't tell me a poor mother can't pack a lunch, and a poor kid can't survive on PBJ sandwiches because we did. Yes we take care of those that can't take care of themselves, but this socialist free for all gimmedat society and centralized government you promote is really F'd up.
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Fresh, Woody's got a point when he says you are sick............
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Yeah.....here, here. Most prosperous country in the world shouldn't be expected to feed it's children. What a fukked up idea. I don't care how much food is thrown away, feed our children. I bet the ones who have this one decent meal a day aren't throwing it away. You people are sick. I would hope food could be the one thing we could agree on. But of course no, the little buggers just throw it all away. Sure they do.

Why waste money needlessly?  That money could be used to help other poor folks.  

Why not means test those that need?  That makes sure that middle class folks that don't really need to food are not taking from poor that really do.

You are so helplessly confused.  Not sure there is much we can do for you here.

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Feed the hungry. Heal the sick. Provide roads, education and for civil and national defense. Your necessity to always attack the person exposes your lack of a humane answer to the problems. Keep up your attacks, I can take it. Only shows a lack of substance.
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Feed the hungry. Heal the sick. Provide roads, education and for civil and national defense. Your necessity to always attack the person exposes your lack of a humane answer to the problems. Keep up your attacks, I can take it. Only shows a lack of substance.


Kind of like calling them racist?

At least you admit you have no substance.

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You want to support people who take no responsibility for their actions when you talk about these children.  Women having children like animals and men who aren't men and take no responsibility for their actions.  Instead, how about if you are worried about these children, take them from those who are irresponsible and put them in some situation where they have a chance at life?  No, you wouldn't support that.  You want the baby factories to keep producing so they can get the government dole and the baby makers to continue to get away from any responsibility for what they cost the tax payer.  


Would hate to have you "teaching" one of my kids. We'd have some problems if you spouted out your hate filled rhetoric in their classroom. The circle of poverty is much like the circle of jerk. They feed off each other and don't see the big picture as a result. Focus on the wrong issues and when they do identify a legitimate one, massage each other with extreme examples to go with their status quo. I have no interest in allowing poverty to continue because the poor vote predominantly democrat. Old conservative bedtime story, but not particularly accurate. I do wish to find a means to end this self perpetuating road to poverty, but it has to start by changing the culture. Just as it is very difficult to change the opinions of a person that wants to obsess on the bad elements of our society, it is difficult to tell a young inner city boy that the drug dealers with all the money are not who they should be patterning their life after. 
Not sure of the answer, but turning these kids out hungry from school is not it. 

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Feed the hungry. Heal the sick. Provide roads, education and for civil and national defense. Your necessity to always attack the person exposes your lack of a humane answer to the problems. Keep up your attacks, I can take it. Only shows a lack of substance.

But why waste money doing it, needlessly?  You fail to answer that substantive question.  If I can feed the poor $100 why must we spend $500 to do it with loads of waste?

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Would hate to have you "teaching" one of my kids. We'd have some problems if you spouted out your hate filled rhetoric in their classroom. The circle of poverty is much like the circle of jerk. They feed off each other and don't see the big picture as a result. Focus on the wrong issues and when they do identify a legitimate one, massage each other with extreme examples to go with their status quo. I have no interest in allowing poverty to continue because the poor vote predominantly democrat. Old conservative bedtime story, but not particularly accurate. I do wish to find a means to end this self perpetuating road to poverty, but it has to start by changing the culture. Just as it is very difficult to change the opinions of a person that wants to obsess on the bad elements of our society, it is difficult to tell a young inner city boy that the drug dealers with all the money are not who they should be patterning their life after. 
Not sure of the answer, but turning these kids out hungry from school is not it. 




Yet democrats fight tooth and nail to keep from allowing those kids from transferring out of a failing school system.

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Would hate to have you "teaching" one of my kids.  


That's rich coming from someone who has such a brazen disregard for facts, rules and laws.

Hopefully you aren't coaching anymore.

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Feed the hungry. Heal the sick. Provide roads, education and for civil and national defense. Your necessity to always attack the person exposes your lack of a humane answer to the problems. Keep up your attacks, I can take it. Only shows a lack of substance.


The Federal government should be in charge of a standing military, securing the border, building interstate highways, and imposing tariffs on imported goods. All other responsibilities should go to the states. That includes all the handouts that socialists want. The catch is, your state and local governments tax you for all the free stuff you want to hand out. If I'm not in your state, they don't tax me for your righteous desire to come to the aid of your state's growing number of gimmedats. If you hand it out, they will come.

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It baffles me.  We live in the greatest Country on Earth.  We have the strongest military and most robust economy.  Our protection against evil is second to none thanks to those who serve.  Our way of life is one of the world's best.  We have the greatest freedoms and greatest opportunities.  Our Universities are sought by many across the globe and our technological advances top all our competitors.  Despite our flaws, it's the best nation by far.  We should get on our knees and kiss the ground with thanks we live in this Country.  For all the reasons above, I'll never fully understand the constant complaining about our dues (taxes) being too high.  Something appears to be working pretty good in this system of ours if you ask me.  Fight the waste, push for policy change, but stop the constant outrage that fellow citizens are taking your money.  We're paying dues in order to continue this great American experience.  Maybe we disagree on how dues should be spent but nobody is out to break their fellow citizen.  Besides, to date I think we've gotten far more than our money's worth here in America.
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The Federal government should be in charge of a standing military, securing the border, building interstate highways, and imposing tariffs on imported goods. All other responsibilities should go to the states. That includes all the handouts that socialists want. The catch is, your state and local governments tax you for all the free stuff you want to hand out. If I'm not in your state, they don't tax me for your righteous desire to come to the aid of your state's growing number of gimmedats. If you hand it out, they will come.

Honestly, the state governments should not even be doing that work.  This has been and should be the purview of private and church based organizations.   Government only bring bureaucrats and waste to the equation.  If you use private NGOs to do this they are great at harnessing the power and energy of volunteers and the spirt of the American people to accomplish things everyday.  

It seems the more government involvement we have the less people get the help they actually need, and the fatter the bureaucrats get.

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I do wish to find a means to end this self perpetuating road to poverty, but it has to start by changing the culture.

The welfare state enables that culture and its rules discourage people from working their way out of it because they'd lose far more in benefits than they'd gain in wages. They know the rules backward and forward on how to get maximum benefits and keep them. Increases in minimum wage only result in them working less hours to reach max income for their benefits.

Need to change the rules of the game to incentivize work instead of disincentivising it.
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