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And mine as well. Why are your beliefs more important, in a free society, than mine?
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And mine as well. Why are your beliefs more important, in a free society, than mine?


Who said they were?

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This list of the most and least educated states has an almost perfect correlation to voters. The most educated are Blue / Liberal / Democrat / Left. The lease educated are Red / Conservative / Republican / Right

The top ten most educated states are:

  1. Massachusetts
  2. Maryland
  3. Colorado
  4. Connecticut
  5. Vermont
  6. New Hampshire
  7. Virginia
  8. Minnesota
  9. Washington
  10. New Jersey

While the 10 least educated states are:

41. Oklahoma
42. Texas
43. Tennessee
44. Alabama
45. Nevada
46. Kentucky
47. Arkansas
48. Louisiana
49. Mississippi
50. West Virginia

Methodology

 In order to determine the most and least educated states in America, WalletHub’s analysts compared the 50 states across as follows:

-Share of Adults Aged 25 & Older with at Least a High School Diploma: Full Weight (~20.00 Points)
-Share of Adults Aged 25 & Older with at Least Some College Experience or an Associate's Degree: Full Weight (~20.00 Points)
-Share of Adults Aged 25 & Older with at Least a Bachelor's Degree: Full Weight (~20.00 Points)
-Share of Adults Aged 25 & Older with at Least a Graduate or Professional Degree: Full Weight (~20.00 Points)

 

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Don't confuse education with intelligence.  Bill Gates didn't graduate from college.  Neither did Mark Zuckerberg.  Neither did Larry Ellison.  Others include John Rockefeller, John Glenn, Steve Jobs, Mark Twain, Henry Ford, Winston Churchill, Abraham Lincoln, and Albert Einstein.

By the way, where are California and New York on that list?

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how did Alabama move up from 50 to 44?
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This list of the most and least educated states has an almost perfect correlation to voters. The most educated are Blue / Liberal / Democrat / Left. The lease educated are Red / Conservative / Republican / Right

The top ten most educated states are:

  1. Massachusetts
  2. Maryland
  3. Colorado
  4. Connecticut
  5. Vermont
  6. New Hampshire
  7. Virginia
  8. Minnesota
  9. Washington
  10. New Jersey

While the 10 least educated states are:

41. Oklahoma
42. Texas
43. Tennessee
44. Alabama
45. Nevada
46. Kentucky
47. Arkansas
48. Louisiana
49. Mississippi
50. West Virginia

Methodology

 In order to determine the most and least educated states in America, WalletHub’s analysts compared the 50 states across as follows:

-Share of Adults Aged 25 & Older with at Least a High School Diploma: Full Weight (~20.00 Points)
-Share of Adults Aged 25 & Older with at Least Some College Experience or an Associate's Degree: Full Weight (~20.00 Points)
-Share of Adults Aged 25 & Older with at Least a Bachelor's Degree: Full Weight (~20.00 Points)
-Share of Adults Aged 25 & Older with at Least a Graduate or Professional Degree: Full Weight (~20.00 Points)

 




Why go to college and rack up debt if you can walk in west TX or western OK, and make good money in the oilfield, or on a wind farm. Also Oklahoma has a very strong vocational training system integrated into the high school level.

Maybe those states are red because their underlying belief system is independence and self reliance. 

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Amazing how all the "educated" states voted for the loser and all but one of the "uneducated" states voted for the winner.  Who are the smart ones?
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I agree. Education is way overrated. Our alt right boys in the circle know that. 


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Cool. Now we are racists and uneducated. One more and it's a trifecta but I'm sure you have plenty. With six you get eggrolls

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I agree. Education is way overrated. Our alt right boys in the circle know that. 




I see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

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Don't confuse education with intelligence.  Bill Gates didn't graduate from college.  Neither did Mark Zuckerberg.  Neither did Larry Ellison.  Others include John Rockefeller, John Glenn, Steve Jobs, Mark Twain, Henry Ford, Winston Churchill, Abraham Lincoln, and Albert Einstein.

By the way, where are California and New York on that list?



I didn't make the list. But with only 1 or 2 exceptions, it was a list of all the blue states first and all the red states last. 

And there are exceptions to every rule. But the more intelligent people are also liberals. Conservatives believe things like the earth is 6000 years old and climate change is a hoax. 
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I didn't make the list. But with only 1 or 2 exceptions, it was a list of all the blue states first and all the red states last. 

And there are exceptions to every rule. But the more intelligent people are also liberals. Conservatives believe things like the earth is 6000 years old and climate change is a hoax. 


Okay spanky but where are California and New York on the list?

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Cool. Now we are racists and uneducated. One more and it's a trifecta but I'm sure you have plenty. With six you get eggrolls




You are indeed a racist. You have proved that. I have no idea about your education level. People who think blacks are inferior come in all shapes and sizes and education levels
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Cool. Now we are racists and uneducated. One more and it's a trifecta but I'm sure you have plenty. With six you get eggrolls


It's all these low-intellect lefties have.  I'm with UWA on just ignoring the name calling.  Pick them apart with facts.  They have none and will eventually ask you to stop responding.


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It's all these low-intellect lefties have

LOL..................no name calling for Mr. Highbrow!

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http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-california-test-scores-20170927-story,amp.html



When California rolled out new standardized tests, experts said scores would improve when students got used to them. But three tests in, rather than showing strides from familiarity, their scores have stagnated — essentially flatlining in English and math.

About 3.2 million students in third through eighth grade and 11th grade took the tests in the spring. This year, 49% passed the English exam, compared with 48% in 2016. In math, 38% of students met or exceeded the state’s standard, compared with 37% last year. Fifth graders’ scores dropped slightly in English.


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The fact that a 12 yr old kept the child aside WTF is wrong with our judicial system. Why are libs so deranged. It truly is a mental illness

A Michigan woman who was just 12 years old when she says an 18-year-old held her captive for days and raped her now faces the prospect of sharing joint custody with her attacker, according to the victim’s lawyer.

The decision by a Michigan judge last week comes nine years after the boy’s mother was impregnated by Christopher Mirasolo, now 27, the Detroit News reported.

It wasn’t until recently that Sanilac County Circuit Judge Gregory S. Ross ordered a paternity test for the now-21-year-old woman’s child after she applied for state aid, lawyer Rebecca Kiessling, who is representing the woman, said in a press release on Saturday.

After Mirasolo was identified as the father, the judge ordered that his name be added to the birth certificate and the woman’s address be disclosed to the father, who was also awarded parenting time, Kiessling said.

Kiessling, whose client is not being identified because she is the victim of a sex crime, called the judge’s decision “insane.”

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There are many disgusting signs of the times. The most disgusting of which is that tens of millions of white people who go to church on sundays and pretend they believe in values and christian principals, have proved themselves to be the worst, hate filled people in our nation. That is the main sign of the times.

Plenty who voted for Trump are now embarrassed he is president and sickened to realize the true nature of his main supporters (they should have paid attention sooner). But at least they are now. And real, correct thinking Americans don't like what's going on one bit. Enjoy your 1 more year of time in the sun, racists. Your consequences will be delivered in the voting booth by the good people of American. Trump's consequences will be delivered by Mueller and the american people. Five years from now Trump will be universally recognized as the worst president in US history, and it won't be close.
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In spite of the horrible things being done and planned by the right, there are true American heroes saving our nation from a truly evil man and the truly evil nationalist/populist/supremacist/dictatorship ideology. 

The heroes are:

1. The media doing there jobs to shine a light on the lies and the evil. Bringing vital truth literally every day. The 1st amendment is the most important one, and the journalists at the Washington Post, NY Times, axios, MSNBC and others top the heroes list. There is no better proof of this than the pathological liar screaming that they are fake and his sad cult members repeating it (while they cling to info from him and breitbart)  LOL

2. Federal judges. Praise God Almighty for federal judges who do their job and uphold our constitution. The right (especially in my part of the world) has NEVER in history done the correct thing and never will without being forced to by the courts.  Once again the constitution and our institutions = good, the criminal lying president = very bad. 

3. Patriotic leakers - So many dedicated patriots who are lifers in the government have helped bring the truth to light and save us from Trump.  Every one of them is more of a patriotic american than any Tea Party / Freedom caucus / immigration hating conservative could ever be. 

4. The Republicans who don't pander to the fraud in the White House. The ones who aren't overwhelmed by their complete cowardice and who love country over party or politics or race. This group of heroes includes Bob Corker, John McCain, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and to some extent men like General Kelly and McMasters, who clearly know Trump is a disgrace and clear and present danger, but who hang in and consider saving the nation from him to be part of their duty.
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There are many disgusting signs of the times. The most disgusting of which is that tens of millions of white people who go to church on sundays and pretend they believe in values and christian principals, have proved themselves to be the worst, hate filled people in our nation. That is the main sign of the times.

Plenty who voted for Trump are now embarrassed he is president and sickened to realize the true nature of his main supporters (they should have paid attention sooner). But at least they are now. And real, correct thinking Americans don't like what's going on one bit. Enjoy your 1 more year of time in the sun, racists. Your consequences will be delivered in the voting booth by the good people of American. Trump's consequences will be delivered by Mueller and the american people. Five years from now Trump will be universally recognized as the worst president in US history, and it won't be close.


The racism by dewy and his crew knows no bounds

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In spite of the horrible things being done and planned by the right, there are true American heroes saving our nation from a truly evil man and the truly evil nationalist/populist/supremacist/dictatorship ideology. 

The heroes are:

1. The media doing there jobs to shine a light on the lies and the evil. Bringing vital truth literally every day. The 1st amendment is the most important one, and the journalists at the Washington Post, NY Times, axios, MSNBC and others top the heroes list. There is no better proof of this than the pathological liar screaming that they are fake and his sad cult members repeating it (while they cling to info from him and breitbart)  LOL

2. Federal judges. Praise God Almighty for federal judges who do their job and uphold our constitution. The right (especially in my part of the world) has NEVER in history done the correct thing and never will without being forced to by the courts.  Once again the constitution and our institutions = good, the criminal lying president = very bad. 

3. Patriotic leakers - So many dedicated patriots who are lifers in the government have helped bring the truth to light and save us from Trump.  Every one of them is more of a patriotic american than any Tea Party / Freedom caucus / immigration hating conservative could ever be. 

4. The Republicans who don't pander to the fraud in the White House. The ones who aren't overwhelmed by their complete cowardice and who love country over party or politics or race. This group of heroes includes Bob Corker, John McCain, Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and to some extent men like General Kelly and McMasters, who clearly know Trump is a disgrace and clear and present danger, but who hang in and consider saving the nation from him to be part of their duty.



Here you go Bama




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Despite epic loses over the past 8 years, Auburn_CF keeps telling us to wait till the next election.

how many drubbings do you have to take before you realize the country isn't where you are on most issues?

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Despite epic loses over the past 8 years, Auburn_CF keeps telling us to wait till the next election. how many drubbings do you have to take before you realize the country isn't where you are on most issues?



Maybe you're confused.  In PRESIDENTIAL elections, Dems have gotten more votes 6 of the last 7, narrowly losing 2 in the electoral college. So still 4 of 7. 

And Democrats gained seats in the House and Senate in 2016. Facts.  

And in 2018, the GOP will be saddled with the most incompetent, most hated President in US history. If you don't realize by now that is what the majority of America thinks, you should get out of your bubble. 
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GOP has won 3 of the last 5 PRESIDENTIAL elections. The fact you keep touting the popular vote speaks to your knowledge of our electoral system.
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Maybe you're confused.  In PRESIDENTIAL elections, Dems have gotten more votes 6 of the last 7, narrowly losing 2 in the electoral college. So still 4 of 7. 

And Democrats gained seats in the House and Senate in 2016. Facts.  

And in 2018, the GOP will be saddled with the most incompetent, most hated President in US history. If you don't realize by now that is what the majority of America thinks, you should get out of your bubble. 


You said the media is one of the heroes of our times.  Does that include the New York Times that covered up a big expose on the serial sexual assaulter Harvey Weinstein?



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New York Times is 5 times the national hero that trump will ever be. In 5 years you are going to be waffling on your stupidity at ever listening to one word uttered by this ignoramous.

How did they cover up?

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New York Times is 5 times the national hero that trump will ever be. In 5 years you are going to be waffling on your stupidity at ever listening to one word uttered by this ignoramous.

How did they cover up?



Guess CNN or MSNBC or NYT didn't report that.



https://www.thewrap.com/media-enablers-harvey-weinstein-new-york-times/




But I simply gagged when I read Jim Rutenberg’s sanctimonious piece on Saturday about the “media enablers” who kept this story from the public for decades.

 

“Until now,” he puffed, “no journalistic outfit had been able, or perhaps willing, to nail the details and hit publish.”

That’s right, Jim. No one — including The New York Times.

 

In 2004, I was still a fairly new reporter at The New York Times when I got the green light to look into oft-repeated allegations of sexual misconduct by Weinstein. It was believed that many occurred in Europe during festivals and other business trips there.

I traveled to Rome and tracked down the man who held the plum position of running Miramax Italy. According to multiple accounts, he had no film experience and his real job was to take care of Weinstein’s women needs, among other things.

As head of Miramax Italy in 2003 and 2004, Fabrizio Lombardo was paid $400,000 for less than a year of employment. He was on the payroll of Miramax and thus the Walt Disney Company, which had bought the indie studio in 1993.

I had people on the record telling me Lombardo knew nothing about film, and others citing evenings he organized with Russian escorts.

At the time, he denied that he was on the payroll to help Weinstein with favors. From the story: “Reached in Italy, Mr. Lombardo declined to comment on the circumstances of his leaving Miramax or Ricucci, saying they were legal matters being handled by lawyers. ‘I am very proud of what we achieved at Miramax here in Italy,’ he said of his work for the film company. ‘It cannot be that they hired me because I’m a friend.'”

I also tracked down a woman in London who had been paid off after an unwanted sexual encounter with Weinstein. She was terrified to speak because of her non-disclosure agreement, but at least we had evidence of a pay-off.

The story I reported never ran.

After intense pressure from Weinstein, which included having Matt Damon and Russell Crowe call me directly to vouch for Lombardo and unknown discussions well above my head at the Times, the story was gutted.

I was told at the time that Weinstein had visited the newsroom in person to make his displeasure known. I knew he was a major advertiser in the Times, and that he was a powerful person overall.

But I had the facts, and this was the Times. Right?

Wrong. The story was stripped of any reference to sexual favors or coercion and buried on the inside of the Culture section, an obscure story about Miramax firing an Italian executive. Who cared?

The Times’ then-culture editor Jon Landman, now an editor-at-large for Bloomberg, thought the story was unimportant, asking me why it mattered.

“He’s not a publicly elected official,” he told me.  I explained, to no avail, that a public company would certainly have a problem with a procurer on the payroll for hundreds of thousands of dollars. At the time, Disney told me they had no idea Lombardo existed.

A spokeswoman for the Times had no comment on Sunday.

I was devastated after traveling to two countries and overcoming immense challenges to confirm at least part of the story that wound up running last week, more than a decade later. I had met in person with a woman who said she’d been paid off for an unwanted sexual encounter and thus proved she existed.

Update: Several have asked why I did not pursue the story once I started TheWrap. Fair question. Five years later, 2009, the moment had passed to go back and write the missing piece about Lombardo, who was no longer on the scene and whose story had been half-published in the Times. Miramax was no longer part of the Walt Disney Company. And I did not have sufficient evidence to write about a pay-off, even though I knew one existed. My focus was on raising money, building a website and starting a media company. In the subsequent years since then I did not hear about further pay-offs or harassment and thought the issue was in the past. Weinstein had made a big effort, supposedly, to curb his temper and behavior, which was reflected in other areas of his public life.

Today I wonder: If this story had come to light at the time, would Weinstein have continued his behavior for another decade, evidenced by the scathing 2015 memo by former staffer Lauren O’Connor unearthed by Kantor and Twohey.

Writes Rutenberg: “Mr. Weinstein had his own enablers. He built his empire on a pile of positive press clippings that, before the internet era, could have reached the moon.”

The New York Times was one of those enablers. So pardon me for having a deeply ambivalent response about the current heroism of the Times.


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Not reporting on a story like this doesn't make the many brave reporters working the White House swamp any less courageous. I don't know why it took this long to come out and neither do you. You may have an opinion, but we don't actually know. Might be cronyism, friends protecting friends, power.....it happens. Saying that doesn't make it ok, just saying women are frequently used by powerfull men. Been going on since the beginning of time. We all have to hold those around us responsible and do what we can about it. Cherry picking one disgraceful story and insinuating this is the editorial policy of the NY Times is folly. How about Ailes over at Fox? Might hold them more responsible since it was their hen house he was inhabiting.
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Not reporting on a story like this doesn't make the many brave reporters working the White House swamp any less courageous. I don't know why it took this long to come out and neither do you. You may have an opinion, but we don't actually know. Might be cronyism, friends protecting friends, power.....it happens. Saying that doesn't make it ok, just saying women are frequently used by powerfull men. Been going on since the beginning of time. We all have to hold those around us responsible and do what we can about it. Cherry picking one disgraceful story and insinuating this is the editorial policy of the NY Times is folly. How about Ailes over at Fox? Might hold them more responsible since it was their hen house he was inhabiting.



LMFAO

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New York Times is 5 times the national hero that trump will ever be. In 5 years you are going to be waffling on your stupidity at ever listening to one word uttered by this ignoramous.

How did they cover up?


Matt Damon and Russell Crowe called NYT and asked them to not run the story.  Then Harvey Weinstein himself threatened to pull all of his advertising.  So they didn't run the story.

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