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mikec

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I don't know.  But most of what he says comes out to be true and backed by credible documents. 


Funny.  A few days ago you were saying that the CIA leaks were much ado about nothing. 

The CIA is pretty steamed about it, and Assange was crowing about it, but no big deal so you said.
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Funny.  A few days ago you were saying that the CIA leaks were much ado about nothing. 

The CIA is pretty steamed about it, and Assange was crowing about it, but no big deal so you said.

CIA leaks are a cumulative issue.  That agency is pretty out of control.  The fighting between liberal leftovers and conservatives is causing it no end of greif.  Both are leaking on each other so hard now, not doing anything for the agency.

As far as Vault7.  I still think most of those tools are old in nature.  They were still being used, but on very low level nations.  Not the good stuff.
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The CIA is not Government.........Just like the Fed bank isn't Government.........

Both are above our Presidents........

Obama and Hillary had no say in the Benghazi murders.........The CIA controlled the deal from start-to-finish........

Sooner or later, some of you may understand this stuff...........
mikec

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silly me, I thought Romney killed the Benghazi group.
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I thought it was the butler in the pantry with a candlestick.
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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McCain is unhinged as possible. 
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McCain is unhinged as possible. 


Yes he is, like dewy, off his meds

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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And to think he was recently re elected.'I believe the main driving force in the election process is name recognition. How else do you explain the likes of Waters, Lee, Feinstein, eat all. Many of these high profile lifelong hacks have absolutely nothing on their resume other than getting elected over and over.
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You are absolutely correct.  Incumbency is extremely difficult to overcome.

I knew a guy who decided he was going to run for a County Commission seat that was term-limited, and would have no incumbent.

His entire strategy, which he was quite proud of, was to start placing signs all over the county about a year prior to the election, and to make no (if possible) public position statements.  He did put together a basic website that didn't say much.

To him, it was sort of an experiment to prove your point about name recognition - and it worked.

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And to think he was recently re elected.'I believe the main driving force in the election process is name recognition. How else do you explain the likes of Waters, Lee, Feinstein, eat all. Many of these high profile lifelong hacks have absolutely nothing on their resume other than getting elected over and over.
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You are absolutely correct.  Incumbency is extremely difficult to overcome.

I knew a guy who decided he was going to run for a County Commission seat that was term-limited, and would have no incumbent.

His entire strategy, which he was quite proud of, was to start placing signs all over the county about a year prior to the election, and to make no (if possible) public position statements.  He did put together a basic website that didn't say much.

To him, it was sort of an experiment to prove your point about name recognition - and it worked.



Yep, many voters aren't too bright. Watching certain party loyalists parroting party talking points in the face of facts is a prime example. So anyhoo I sent my cousin in scottsdale another text this morning about his boy Mccain. He says, sh1t the guy is 80 and will be re-elected until he drops dead. I say, hey, who in their right mind wants an unhinged 80 year old dictating complex policy? He says Arizonians love him, they don't care about the substance.

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mikec

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I say, hey, who in their right mind wants an unhinged 80 year old dictating complex policy? He says Arizonians love him, they don't care about the substance.


Isn't Arizona sort of a liberal state that pretends to be conservative?  Could explain it.
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Yea the huge urban mega-plex is liberals. Funny story, my scottsdale cousin's wife is super liberal, and she asked him to fill out her mail in ballot and send it in. She thinks he is also a lib like her.  Sooooo, he tallied up his ballot and hers, and sent in two votes for DJT. Ever since, he's been wrestling with when is the right time to let her in on the news. He wants to do it when they are getting along well, I want him to wait until she does something that really aggravates him and then toss it out.
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Yea the huge urban mega-plex is liberals. Funny story, my scottsdale cousin's wife is super liberal, and she asked him to fill out her mail in ballot and send it in. She thinks he is also a lib like her.  Sooooo, he tallied up his ballot and hers, and sent in two votes for DJT. Ever since, he's been wrestling with when is the right time to let her in on the news. He wants to do it when they are getting along well, I want him to wait until she does something that really aggravates him and then toss it out.

Yep wait till she is aggravated.  Cook that hand-grenade off until just before it blows, then toss it low and hot.
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Yea the huge urban mega-plex is liberals. Funny story, my scottsdale cousin's wife is super liberal, and she asked him to fill out her mail in ballot and send it in. She thinks he is also a lib like her.  Sooooo, he tallied up his ballot and hers, and sent in two votes for DJT. Ever since, he's been wrestling with when is the right time to let her in on the news. He wants to do it when they are getting along well, I want him to wait until she does something that really aggravates him and then toss it out.


Never.
mikec

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with pabar on this one.  ignorance is bliss.
uwApoligist

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Whitehouse budget Chops all funding for PBS, NPR, National endowment for the arts .... 
woody

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Good. Why fund the propaganda wing of the DNC with tax money?
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Agreed
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

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I saw that yesterday and tried a copy/paste from my tablet that I couldn't get to work.  Isn't that the truth?  We've had years of conversation of who is anonymous and why they are on this forum.  I assure you I'm a bigger a$$hole in real life than I am here.  You know how I know?  People tell me.  Anonymity is like drunkenness, it removes the boundaries.  I think I'll change my handle to an anonymous name like dewie
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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And there it is.  Will pdad admit?

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/ford/2017/03/27/ford-invest/99709766/
$9B investment in US Plants.
8,500 new or retained jobs. 
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And there it is.  Will pdad admit?


Probably not

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And there it is.  Will pdad admit?

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/ford/2017/03/27/ford-invest/99709766/
$9B investment in US Plants.
8,500 new or retained jobs. 

Where did you get the $9B and 8,500 jobs? That article is $1.2B and 130+ jobs. Of that, $1B and 130 "new or retained" jobs are from a 2015 agreement. Only the $200M data center is new.


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Facts are tough
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Facts are tough

so are you
uwApoligist

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Where did you get the $9B and 8,500 jobs? That article is $1.2B and 130+ jobs. Of that, $1B and 130 "new or retained" jobs are from a 2015 agreement. Only the $200M data center is new.



They revised the article.  
"The automaker plans to invest $9 billion in U.S. facilities through 2019, resulting in 8,500 new or retained jobs, according to the 2015 contract. "


https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20170327235213/http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/ford/2017/03/27/ford-invest/99709766
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