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jayrot

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Bama run-rules them on Friday then doesn't score a single run on Saturday--AND was almost no-hit.  VERY disappointing.  Ruined a great pitching performance by Littlejohn.  [frown]



I still can't tell you what happened on that Demi Turner play???
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Does anyone know anything about the incoming pitcher? Is she a power pitcher, right or leftie? We are in deep trouble over the next few years without help for Lexie. Both Lexie and Sydney pitched well this weekend. Sydney had no run support so unless a no hitter that was a lost cause. Moore may be a midweek pitcher but can't see her pitching in conference games next year.
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Does anyone know anything about the incoming pitcher? Is she a power pitcher, right or leftie? We are in deep trouble over the next few years without help for Lexie. Both Lexie and Sydney pitched well this weekend. Sydney had no run support so unless a no hitter that was a lost cause. Moore may be a midweek pitcher but can't see her pitching in conference games next year.



To think we are going to be "in deep trouble" suggests you don't think Murph can't recruit great pitchers and great players. He can and does. Someone who has seen our commits pitch could answer your question more detail. But we have Madison Preston coming in next year, and Montana Fouts the following year who would project to pitch answer ... and we are always recruiting more.

I intend to enjoy the hell out of the full year and a half Lexie has to go at UA.
 

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Does anyone know anything about the incoming pitcher? Is she a power pitcher, right or leftie? We are in deep trouble over the next few years without help for Lexie. Both Lexie and Sydney pitched well this weekend. Sydney had no run support so unless a no hitter that was a lost cause. Moore may be a midweek pitcher but can't see her pitching in conference games next year.


Definitely can use a transfer pitcher as having only 3 has shown to be a little bit of a problem this year.

Preston will be good. Don't know if AO good but probably as good as SL. Fouts is the cream of the crop, and if she continues to develop, can and will be as good as Dunne, Traina or AO. And you're not even mentioning Kilfoyl who could well be the best of the three. I mean she was chosen to be on the JWMNT as a freshman in HS.

Again, id love to see them get a transfer, but that ship may have sailed this year.
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If there hadn't been a wind chill of minus-59 at Riverfront in January of 1982, Super Bowl XVI would have been Montana and Fouts
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If there hadn't been a wind chill of minus-59 at Riverfront in January of 1982, Super Bowl XVI would have been Montana and Fouts


Too old for my blood. :/
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We would have 4 pitchers if Kindrick hadn't been forced to quit because of injury, but you can't control or plan that stuff. Seems like a lot of the best teams lean very heavily on two pitchers anyway with the rest as midweek fodder. Who else besides Florida has a comparable 1-2 combo?
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We would have 4 pitchers if Kindrick hadn't been forced to quit because of injury, but you can't control or plan that stuff. Seems like a lot of the best teams lean very heavily on two pitchers anyway with the rest as midweek fodder. Who else besides Florida has a comparable 1-2 combo?


First, Kindrick wasn't forced to quit.  Yes, her injury led her to making the decision to not continue playing softball (which I think probably was the right decision). 

Yes, a 2-pitcher rotation is good down the stretch, but during the year I don't really care to be wasting my AO innings on Loyola-Chicago.  I'd rather have a 3rd and 4th that could help with those innings vs Loyola-Chicago and Valpo.

LSU, Utah, A&M, Arizona, FSU, Oregon, Auburn, Oklahoma all have comparable 1-2 combos.
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Now back to this lackluster offense.  We have got to move Schroder up in the lineup.  She's at least getting good at-bats and shouldn't be sitting behind a 3-hole hitter who went 1 for 9 on the weekend.  
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Definitely can use a transfer pitcher as having only 3 has shown to be a little bit of a problem this year. Preston will be good...  

 

I agree--I think we definitely need four on the pitching staff. And unless we get a transfer or recruit two pitchers before the 2020 class, we won't have four until then.  [frown]

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Now back to this lackluster offense.  We have got to move Schroder up in the lineup.  She's at least getting good at-bats and shouldn't be sitting behind a 3-hole hitter who went 1 for 9 on the weekend.  


Jay, you are preaching to the choir. Schroder has been clutch all year. I am dying to see her kept in the 4th slot or either moved up to the 3 hole. Runyon has a good night Friday and hopefully that give her a spark. Schroder has simply been outstanding though.
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I agree--I think we definitely need four on the pitching staff. And unless we get a transfer or recruit two pitchers before the 2020 class, we won't have four until then.  [frown]



With the growth of college softball and more programs becoming contenders for post-season and conference titles, some players prefer to go where they get playing time sooner. So being able to carry a staff of 4 quality pitchers is harder than it used to be. Teams aren't quite stacked like they used to be. 



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With the growth of college softball and more programs becoming contenders for post-season and conference titles, some players prefer to go where they get playing time sooner. So being able to carry a staff of 4 quality pitchers is harder than it used to be. Teams aren't quite stacked like they used to be. 




Just curious, what teams used to carry 4 quality pitchers? The only team I've ever known to have four quality pitchers was LSU with Hoover, Walljasper, Smith and Corbello.
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Now back to this lackluster offense.  We have got to move Schroder up in the lineup.  She's at least getting good at-bats and shouldn't be sitting behind a 3-hole hitter who went 1 for 9 on the weekend.  


We are definitely a Jekyll and Hyde team when it comes to hitting.  I can feel Murphy's pain.  I went to all 3 games this past weekend at Ms. State and scratch my head at how a girl can go 4-4 on Friday, 0-4 on Saturday and 1-4 on Sunday.  Schroder is still swinging the hottest bat on the team but even it has cooled off somewhat.  Hemphill's bat definitely has.  Poor girl has been walked so much this year that it appears that she has forgotten how to swing the bat when she does get a hittable pitch.  Just when you think someone has gotten of the snide (i.e. Runyon, Grantham, Dare) they get right back on it.  Moving Schroder up to the 3 hole makes sense but that means that you start off with your first 3 batters being lefties.  If you do move Schroder up to the 3 hole, I would move Dykes to clean up to protect her because she has been swing a decent bat lately.  I would keep Hemphill at the 5 hole until she gets back on tract.
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Just curious, what teams used to carry 4 quality pitchers? The only team I've ever known to have four quality pitchers was LSU with Hoover, Walljasper, Smith and Corbello.


LSU still has 4 quality pitchers with Hoover, Walljasper, Smith and Gorsuch.  I saw where Gorsuch pitched a couple of games over the weekend.  Don't know if Smith pitched any games.  Does anyone know if she is hurt?
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LSU still has 4 quality pitchers with Hoover, Walljasper, Smith and Gorsuch.  I saw where Gorsuch pitched a couple of games over the weekend.  Don't know if Smith pitched any games.  Does anyone know if she is hurt?


You lost me on Gorsuch, since she has pitched 16 innings and has a 6.4 ERA.

And Smith pitched on Friday, but nothing since then.
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You lost me on Gorsuch, since she has pitched 16 innings and has a 6.4 ERA.

And Smith pitched on Friday, but nothing since then.

Saw her pitch in travel ball and caught her pitch on one game on ESPN3 this year.  I believes that she has the tools and will be a serviceable pitcher down the road.  Not putting her on Hoover's level by any means.  I could possibly be talked into a trade involving her and Maddie Moore.[smile]
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Bailey Hemphill leads Alabama in RBI's...........And, she leads in walks by a lot...........

Some other players better step up soon.............
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Saw her pitch in travel ball and caught her pitch on one game on ESPN3 this year.  I believes that she has the tools and will be a serviceable pitcher down the road.  Not putting her on Hoover's level by any means.  I could possibly be talked into a trade involving her and Maddie Moore.[smile]


Would you put her on corbellos level?
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Bailey Hemphill leads Alabama in RBI's...........And, she leads in walks by a lot...........

Some other players better step up soon.............


That's my point.  Hemphill was swinging the biggest, hottest stick earlier this year but she has had no protection at all.  Teams just started to walk her to get to our other hitters.  This lead to the classic case of a player starting to swing at bad pitches just to try and make something happen.  I believe that she is like 0-9 with some walks in the last 4 games.  I don't have the stats handy.  i did notice that in the 3rd game on Sunday at Ms. State, she took some excellent cuts.  She was just under a few that she fouled directly behind her.  The foul balls that she hit were hit a mile.  The flyouts that she had were hit solid.  If Hemphill get back on the snide and Dykes keeps swinging the bat well, I like would definitely like to see Schroder, Hemphill and Dykes in some combination as the 3, 4 and 5 batters.
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Would you put her on corbellos level?


I never saw Corbello pitch in person, only on tv.  From what I can recall of Corbello, I would probably give a slight edge to Gorsuch.  Do you know how Corbello is doing at McNeese State this year?
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I never saw Corbello pitch in person, only on tv.  From what I can recall of Corbello, I would probably give a slight edge to Gorsuch.  Do you know how Corbello is doing at McNeese State this year?


She's not their ace, so....
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I knew we had lost a pitcher to injury before she got on campus. Just couldn't remember which signing class. I hate to see AO worn out next year by middle week games and 2 weekend matches. Sydney has developed nicely into that #2 Saturday pitcher. if our hitting becomes more consistent she will be better than we have had since JT backed up Kelsy Dunne her freshman year as far as wins.I am excited to hear more about Madison and hope that she comes in ready to go. Maybe Steph will work her magic and Moore can become a midweek starter.
Now on to hitting, I also can't understand Merris' placement in the lineup. Bailey has hit a wall I believe due to not seeing many decent pitches to the point that the last 2 weekends she has swung at bad pitches in order to try to put ball in play. But, overall the youngsters seem to be batting better than their older teammates. I also agree, that Bailey had the misfortune to be put in the middle of a slumping batting lineup, so no incentive to not walk her. I would expect Pat to do the same to an opposing team. No matter what we love following the Tide to all the venues around the conference and following not only our team but enjoying watching Monday night softball on the SEC network.

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I'm confused.  Do you want to be on the snide or off the snide?
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I'm confused.  Do you want to be on the snide or off the snide?

LOL.  Excellent question. 
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Just curious, what teams used to carry 4 quality pitchers? The only team I've ever known to have four quality pitchers was LSU with Hoover, Walljasper, Smith and Corbello.


I did a poor job with that explanation. What I was trying to say was that I don't see many schools being able to carry 4 quality pitchers. And yes, schools never did in the past, but the top tier schools loaded up on talent at all positions because there were less top teams to attract the top talent. 



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I did a poor job with that explanation. What I was trying to say was that I don't see many schools being able to carry 4 quality pitchers. And yes, schools never did in the past, but the top tier schools loaded up on talent at all positions because there were less top teams to attract the top talent. 




Gotcha.  I think the game is moving more staff-oriented, as opposed to years passed.  Watching UGA have to use 3 pitchers to win Game 2 of the UK series tells me that you better have at least 2 different pitchers that can go in Game 1 and 2 completely different pitchers that can go in Game 2.  At least a pitcher who can eat up 2-3 innings here and there.  Yes at the end of the year, having that dominant pitcher is still a must.  But to survive the grind of the season, you gotta have 4 pitchers, in my opinion.
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 Yes at the end of the year, having that dominant pitcher is still a must.  But to survive the grind of the season, you gotta have 4 pitchers, in my opinion.


Exactly!  I know Traina carried the load almost entirely on her shoulders in 2012, but that's a lot of pressure to put on one player.  A pitching staff of four gives a team a lot of leeway as far as rotation and protection from injuries.
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Exactly!  I know Traina carried the load almost entirely on her shoulders in 2012, but that's a lot of pressure to put on one player.  A pitching staff of four gives a team a lot of leeway as far as rotation and protection from injuries.


Saw Jackie over the weekend. She looks like she could pitch at any moment. Looks in great shape.
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Saw Jackie over the weekend. She looks like she could pitch at any moment. Looks in great shape.


Dartmouth couldve used her.
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