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Wow that was a crazy crazy game!

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Losing to a middle of the road pitcher and a below average offense is heartbreaking but I guess I knew it'd happen all along.
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I would hardly call Mack a middle of the road pitcher.  We are not exactly tearing the cover off of the ball right now, but Mack is a good pitcher.
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I would hardly call Mack a middle of the road pitcher.  We are not exactly tearing the cover off of the ball right now, but Mack is a good pitcher.


They didn't even make it out of regionals last year.

And the not ripping the cover off the ball is an understatement. For a top level SEC team to only score 2 runs in 22 innings is borderline anemic.
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I would hardly call Mack a middle of the road pitcher.  We are not exactly tearing the cover off of the ball right now, but Mack is a good pitcher.


They didn't even make it out of regionals last year.

And the not ripping the cover off the ball is an understatement. For a top level SEC team to only score 2 runs in 22 innings is borderline anemic.


UMass did not get out of regionals in 2009.  That does not mean that Brandice Balschmiter was a middle of the road pitcher.  It's going to be OK.
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I would hardly call Mack a middle of the road pitcher.  We are not exactly tearing the cover off of the ball right now, but Mack is a good pitcher.


They didn't even make it out of regionals last year.

And the not ripping the cover off the ball is an understatement. For a top level SEC team to only score 2 runs in 22 innings is borderline anemic.


UMass did not get out of regionals in 2009.  That does not mean that Brandice Balschmiter was a middle of the road pitcher.  It's going to be OK.


You're right but compare LSUs offensive talent to UMASSs offensive talent.

Of course it'll be ok because tomorrow will be another day and this game will be gone. But this game is just indicative of the struggles Bama will continue to have earning a national championship. These lackluster games by an overly talented offense is what is going to hurt them down the road. When your pitchers play like that and you can't get someone to step up and be clutch, it's problematic.
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Softball Falls in 14 Innings to LSU, 2-1

In the second longest game in Alabama softball history the Crimson Tide fell 2-1 in 14 innings to LSU at Tiger Park, Friday night. Anissa Young proved to be the difference for the Tigers ... MORE [+]

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Young, Mack Propel Softball to Epic Win over No. 1 Bama
Published: April 08, 2011, 10:42 PM (CT)
Updated: April 09, 2011, 12:29 AM (CT)
by Matt Dunaway, Associate SID

BATON ROUGE - Anissa Young belted a solo home run over the right field fence to vault the LSU softball team to an epic 2-1 14-inning triumph over No. 1 Alabama as a season-best 1,503 fans gathered Friday at Tiger Park.

Brittany Mack went the distance and garnered a career-best 14 strikeouts. She limited the high-octane Crimson Tide offense to one run on eight hits and forced Alabama (37-3, 12-2 SEC) to strand 16 base runners.

The contest marked both the longest in terms of innings (14) and time (4 hours, 31 minutes) during program history.

"This is as good as I have ever seen Brittany Mack pitch," head coach Yvette Girouard said. "I was going to be devastated if we didn't get this win for her. What a night for Anissa Young. She made an adjustment where she went to a slap-type of hitting, which helped her roll in those RBI's. That's the kind of adjustment we need to win big games like this one. She hit the ball extremely well tonight."

With the victory, LSU (23-12, 6-6 SEC) notched its eighth consecutive win to match a season-high. The Tigers also defeated the nation's No. 1 team for the fourth time in program history, the last time that feat occurred was a 3-2 win over Tennessee on April 29, 2007.

Young ripped the sixth pitch of the sequence, a 2-2 offering, on a line to clear the right field fence. The last time LSU won a game on a long ball was a two-run shot by Kirsten Shortridgeagainst Kentucky during the SEC Tournament Quarterfinals last season.

"It was a curveball that I just sat on and stayed through it," Young said. "It means a lot to me. I just want to say congratulations to my teammates. We stayed positive and did a great job. It was an awesome feeling seeing both the fans along with my teammates jumping up and down. It will be something I will never forget."

With the bases loaded and one out in the top half of the 14th inning, Mack dug deep and received back-to-back ground balls by Cassie Reilly-Boccia and Jackie Traina to escape the jam. She gutted her way through an outstanding 234 pitches.

"Anytime Coach Girouard came out to the circle, I would tell her that I got this game, and I'm going to finish," Mack said. "I knew she had all the confidence in me. Not once did I see the look of question on her face. I'm thankful that she let me take the game to the finish."

Mack also wiggled out of bases loaded situation in the sixth inning with a strikeout of Jackey Branham to keep the game scoreless.

The Tigers used that momentum and capitalized on a Juliana Santos leadoff walk. She moved to second base on an Ashley Langoni sacrifice bunt. Two batters later, Young laced a RBI-double into the left centerfield gap to hand LSU a 1-0 edge.

The Crimson Tide rallied for the equalizer during the seventh inning as Kayla Braud slapped a leadoff infield single and advanced to second base on a Tammy Wray throwing error. After a Jennifer Fenton bunt single and Whitney Lawson walk, Reilly-Boccia knocked a sacrifice fly to even the score at 1-1.

Mack pitched her way out of trouble and forced Traina to ground out to Wray, who alertly throw home to cut off the go-ahead run. She received a fly ball to keep the contest deadlocked at 1-1.

Traina was tagged with the loss and dropped to 14-2 after being touched up for one run on three hits, while striking out six in 5 2/3 innings of relief.

Kelsi Dunne started the game for Alabama and surrendered one run on four hits in 7 1/3 innings. The senior right-hander tallied eight Ks against two walks. 

Prior to the game, each Crimson Tide player gave Girouard a flower in honor of her retirement.

"The LSU-Alabama softball series has always been a dogfight before I even got here," Girouard said. "It goes back and forth each year, there are a lot of sentimental stories on both sides. I gave Patrick Murphy his first job [at Louisiana-Lafayette], Alyson Habetz played under me [at Louisiana-Lafayette] and I felt what they did at the beginning of the game with the flowers was very classy of Alabama."

Game two of the series is slated for Saturday at 6 p.m. with live video, live audio and live stats available in the Geaux Zone on LSUsports.net. The contest also will be carried live on ESPN 104.5 FM with Patrick Wright and Kent Lowe calling the action.

In-game updates are provided via the program's social media pages athttp://www.Facebook.com/lsusoftball and http://www.Twitter.com/LSU_Softball.

Reserved seats are sold out for Saturday's game, but free general admission seating in sections 101 and 107 will be available on a first-come, first-serve basis along with seating on the berm in left field.

Softball Postgame Quotes
LSU vs. No. 1 Alabama 
April 8, 2011

Head Coach Yvette Girouard

On the series...
"The LSU-Alabama softball series has always been a dogfight before I even got here. It goes back and forth each year, there are a lot of sentimental stories on both sides. I gave Patrick Murphy his first job [at Louisiana-Lafayette], Alyson Habetz played under me [at Louisiana-Lafayette] and I felt what they did at the beginning of the game with the flowers was very classy of Alabama."

On the team...
"We have had to battle at the beginning this year with three starters (Ashley ApplegateAllison Falcon and Jessica Mouse) all out, and we didn't start out in the SEC how we wanted. We are finally coming together and making things work."

On Brittany Mack...
"I was going to be devastated if we didn't get this win for her. This is as good as I have ever seenBrittany Mack pitch. She has looked awfully good these past couple of weeks. I thought about taking her out because of her arm problem. She looked good, felt good and battled all the way to the finish."

On Anissa Young...
"What a night for Anissa Young. She made an adjustment where she went to a slap-type of hitting, which helped her roll in those RBI's. That's the kind of adjustment we need to win big games like this one. She hit the ball extremely well tonight." 
 
First Basemen Anissa Young

On tonight's win...
"It means a lot to me. I just want to say congratulations to my teammates. We stayed positive and did a great job. We finally pulled through today."

On Brittany Mack...
"We could not have won this game without Brittany Mack tonight. She stayed strong, she stayed tough and I knew she would come through for us. I was trying to stay in hear and keep it positive. It was unbelievable."

On the last pitch...
"It was a curveball that I just sat on and stayed through it."

On running around the bases after her homerun... 
"It was an awesome feeling seeing both the fans along with my teammates jumping up and down. It will be something I will never forget."

On tomorrow's game...
"We're going to come out tomorrow with the same intensity and mentality we left on the field tonight."

Pitcher Brittany Mack

On the long night...
"It has definitely been a long night. I'm excited to get some ice and rest for tomorrow's game. Luckily, the game tomorrow is at 6:00pm instead of 1:00pm. At some points during the game, it didn't seem that long. I just kept telling myself to keep pitching my game and stay focus."

On Coach Girouard's confidence...
"Anytime Coach Girouard came out to the circle, I would tell her that I got this game, and I'm going to finish. I knew she had all the confidence in me. Not once did I see the look of question on her face. I'm thankful that she let me take the game to the finish."

On her pitching...
"I'm very happy that I was able to pitch very well against the No. 1 team in the nation. I'm very pleased with my team's performance as well."

On Anissa Young...
"I was so excited when Anissa Young hit her homerun. There are no words to explain it. She got the first run and the final run to win the game. It was amazing."

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This game, as does the other losses Bama has suffered, does not bode well for post season play.  When faced with great pitchers or as in this case, a hot pitcher, the hitting disappears.  The early strikeouts against LSU were strong indications that the hitting is suspect.  Traina's 0-7 and continued decline against SEC pitching has left a major void in the lineup.

The pitching lines in the three losses follow:

ULL              ip  er  bb  so  wp  bk  hbp  ibb  ab  bf  fo  go  np  
Brignac, Ashley W,7-0  7.0  23  24  10  102 

Tennessee            ip  er  bb  so  wp  bk  hbp  ibb  ab  bf  fo  go  np  
Ellen Renfroe W,14-2  7.0  21  29  144 

LSU  ip er bb so wp bk hbp ibb ab bf fo go np 
Brittany Mack W,9-3 14.0 14 45 59 19 234
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Unnecessary but cathartic analysis of Bama's hitting.

BA Overall SEC Difference
Braud 0.460 0.327 0.133
Fenton 0.340 0.355 0.015
Larsen 0.364 0.390 0.026
Boccia 0.359 0.282 0.077
Traina 0.354 0.194 0.160
Hunt 0.370 0.394 0.024
Dawson 0.176 0.107 0.069
Lunceford 0.253 0.290 0.037
Locke 0.231 0.261 0.030
Branham 0.286 0.200 0.086


Braud, Traina and Reilly-Boccia hitting has taken a nose dive once they started facing SEC pitching.  Hunt and Larsen have actually improved their BA with Hunt's probably being helped by more playing time.


% of Games SEC 35%
HR Overall SEC % SEC Diff
Braud 3 1 33% -2%
Fenton 7 2 29% -6%
Larsen 9 3 33% -2%
Boccia 8 1 13% -23%
Traina 13 2 15% -20%
Hunt 8 3 38% 3%
Dawson 1 0 0% -35%
Lunceford 4 2 50% 15%
Locke 6 3 50% 15%
Branham 1 1 100% 65%

Even more telling is how the home runs have fallen off in SEC play for Traina and Reilly-Boccia.  Since they hit in the middle of the order and are in the primary RBI spots this has had a detrimental impact on run production.

Runs scored has dropped off to 6.3 per game for SEC versus 8.5 for non conference.

Of course figures lie and liars figure and the numbers are affected by different things such as playing weaker lineups against some of non-conference foes and playing Arkansas and South Carolina in the SEC.

One good thing though is Dunne and Traina pitching has been awesome.
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Maybe Bama should stay away from teams in Louisiana.


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jayrot and cyberfox, you are doom and gloomers and looking at this the wrong way.
cyberfox, the graph you did comparing the hitting stats of non-conference vs conference is indicative (to me) that the SEC is a premier/elite conference now comparable to the PAC-10.  In other words, there are few easy games in the SEC.

Take a look at the PAC-10 games of yesterday (Friday): UA loses to OSU; Washington is mercied by California; Stanford visits UCLA and takes them 14 innings in a losing effort.  The most consistent team is the Sun Devils and that team 
is comparable to Alabama.
jayrot, you need to take a double dose of valium and chill out. Tuscaloosa is still on the map and the world will not end with this loss. Relax, man!

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Maybe Bama should stay away from teams in Louisiana.



A simple solution, if executable, is always best.

Then we have that Tennessee problem too you know.  Maybe Bama could just play Georgia.
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cyberfox, the graph you did comparing the hitting stats of non-conference vs conference is indicative (to me) that the SEC is a premier/elite conference now comparable to the PAC-10.  In other words, there are few easy games in the SEC.


tenfour,  I believe you are right.  My point is that maybe we (you, maybe) (I) (jayrot) had elevated Alabama to a level that they have not reached yet.  Bama is competitive with the top teams but that is all.... competitive.  Look forward to more disappointment when post season arrives.  That is all I am saying.
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Unnecessary but cathartic analysis of Bama's hitting.

BAOverallSECDifference
Braud0.4600.3270.133
Fenton0.3400.3550.015
Larsen0.3640.3900.026
Boccia0.3590.2820.077
Traina0.3540.1940.160
Hunt0.3700.3940.024
Dawson0.1760.1070.069
Lunceford0.2530.2900.037
Locke0.2310.2610.030
Branham0.2860.2000.086


Braud, Traina and Reilly-Boccia hitting has taken a nose dive once they started facing SEC pitching.  Hunt and Larsen have actually improved their BA with Hunt's probably being helped by more playing time.


% of Games SEC35%
HROverallSEC% SECDiff
Braud3133%-2%
Fenton7229%-6%
Larsen9333%-2%
Boccia8113%-23%
Traina13215%-20%
Hunt8338%3%
Dawson100%-35%
Lunceford4250%15%
Locke6350%15%
Branham11100%65%


Even more telling is how the home runs have fallen off in SEC play for Traina and Reilly-Boccia.  Since they hit in the middle of the order and are in the primary RBI spots this has had a detrimental impact on run production.

Runs scored has dropped off to 6.3 per game for SEC versus 8.5 for non conference.

Of course figures lie and liars figure and the numbers are affected by different things such as playing weaker lineups against some of non-conference foes and playing Arkansas and South Carolina in the SEC.

One good thing though is Dunne and Traina pitching has been awesome.



  While I am dissapointed in the game as much as anyone...I have to say that games like this build character, and after the last two losses we bounced back.  Admittedly I wasn't there, but we had plenty of opportunities to score I know we had plenty of walks and plenty of hits (16 LOB)....just not the big hits...but if the way the radio announcers decribed it was correct, in at least three different cases we were up with runners in scoring position and hit the ball  hard, just right at someone.  There are certain teams that are going to play us close no matter the talent level, and LSU is at the top of that list in the SEC.  It is a long season and we are going to have droughts, I am pretty sure that we have hit good pitchers well this season too. 

     I think that Jackie's hot start with the bat was probably the worse thing for her for us....She is a freshman with a lot on her plate, and I don't think any of us doubt that she will come around. And as long as she keeps giving us 7 solid innings on the mound, then she is doing her part.  We just have to hope that by post season she has improved against better pitchers.  Probably most dissapointing in Cyber's stats is RiBo she has got to be consistant. 


And as far as the pitching goes you have to be impressed with both of them, I know that LSU is not a good hitting team, but especially with Jackie she succeeded 6 times last night under immense pressure.  And if she and Kelsi can keep us within one run the rest of the season, I believe our bats will come through more often than not.  After all my optimism I hope we respond well today!!! Roll Tide Roll
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?? "Look forward to more disappointment when post season arrives."

Is that a caution to me regarding Tide's future this year or is this an admission by you
that you are indeed a doom and gloomer ?  Not certain because you omitted a pronoun.





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?? "Look forward to more disappointment when post season arrives."

Is that a caution to me regarding Tide's future this year or is this an admission by you
that you are indeed a doom and gloomer ?  Not certain because you omitted a pronoun.





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?? "Look forward to more disappointment when post season arrives."

Is that a caution to me regarding Tide's future this year or is this an admission by you
that you are indeed a doom and gloomer ?  Not certain because you omitted a pronoun




The omission was intentional since I meant it as a general comment.  But, you are right.  I tend to be a doom and gloomer.  ...and a front runner  ....and a realist too.
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mickey said "     I think that Jackie's hot start with the bat was probably the worse thing for her for us....She is a freshman with a lot on her plate, and I don't think any of us doubt that she will come around. And as long as she keeps giving us 7 solid innings on the mound, then she is doing her part.  We just have to hope that by post season she has improved against better pitchers.  Probably most dissapointing in Cyber's stats is RiBo she has got to be consistant."

You are right about Jackie's hitting early on.  But her incredible start did tend to inflate the offensive production by the team during the non conference games.  CPM has said multiple times how her hitting was a surprise.

Kelsi, Jackey pitching and Larsen have been team leaders.  I agree that Ribo needs to be a leader too and so far this year that has not been the case.
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Good grief, this place is pathetic now.  IT WAS ONE GAME!  We play a whole bunch of them and nobody goes undefeated.

Ribo not a leader???  Now we have gone into pure insanity.

I will be going to a happier place now.

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Good grief, this place is pathetic now.  IT WAS ONE GAME!  We play a whole bunch of them and nobody goes undefeated.

Ribo not a leader???  Now we have gone into pure insanity.

I will be going to a happier place now.

Thank you Stephen. I think what cyber and some others are forgetting after our third loss of the season. Is that no one wins every game and as far as disappointment in the offseason, with the exception of the SEC Tournament, postseason play is not single game elimination. No one has yet to beat this Crimson Tide team in a series. 

Lets see how the team responds after the toughest loss of the year today.
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jayrot and cyberfox, you are doom and gloomers and looking at this the wrong way.
cyberfox, the graph you did comparing the hitting stats of non-conference vs conference is indicative (to me) that the SEC is a premier/elite conference now comparable to the PAC-10.  In other words, there are few easy games in the SEC.

Take a look at the PAC-10 games of yesterday (Friday): UA loses to OSU; Washington is mercied by California; Stanford visits UCLA and takes them 14 innings in a losing effort.  The most consistent team is the Sun Devils and that team 
is comparable to Alabama.
jayrot, you need to take a double dose of valium and chill out. Tuscaloosa is still on the map and the world will not end with this loss. Relax, man!

I'm still here, still got my 10 hours of sleep last night, and am doing great.  I'll still be loyally following Bama today.  As matter of fact, I tried to turn off that game so many times last night, I just couldn't stay away.

I'm not so worried about this one game or the fact it was LSU.  I'm just worried about squandering the talent that Alabama does have.  From head to toe, I think it is one extremely talented team (possibly the most talented team Alabama has every assembled) that just needs to get that "kill" mentality going.  

Yes, it is just one loss, but if you look at our 3 losses this season, they have come against teams that could possibly be in OKC and against pitchers that have just shut us down.   It worries me only because Alabama has had such a hard time winning that first game in OKC and I'd prefer not to see a UM/Nimitz 2009 repeat. 

Plus there is an intensity there, because it is the LSU rivalry ... it's like losing to LSU in football, it just isn't fun when you lose to the Mad Hatter.
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Good grief, this place is pathetic now.  IT WAS ONE GAME!  We play a whole bunch of them and nobody goes undefeated.

Ribo not a leader???  Now we have gone into pure insanity.

I will be going to a happier place now.


That is a little insane.  She may not have been stellar offensively on that night, but neither were a lot of other people in that line up.  And you can pretty much say she kept that game alive with that all out hussle play in the outfield.
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i hope the girls play for the fun of it tonight

roll tide, everyone!

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Obviously, Murphy is one of the top coaches around.  However, in the "epic game" last night the 16 LOB's are glaring; and at some point you'd have to think that some creative strategy by Murphy (for God's sake maybe luck) that you'd score in more than one out of seventeen chances.  Kinda thinking that Murphy is probably thinking he let some very doable scoring chances slip  away from him.  Kind of surprising for such a control freak!!!!  

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You mean to tell me that teams with pitchers good enough to shut down a potent offense are the ones who might get to the playoffs?  Get out of here!  Maybe we should go find us a couple of those pitchers.  The next time our team has the nerve to lose 3 games, they should be to Alabama A&M, St. Peter's, and Grambling.  That will make us feel better, since we probably would not have to face those types of teams in the tournament.
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I know that I didn't say that RiBo wasn't a leader???  I said we need her to be more consistent and I will stand by that???  And I think she has time to work out of any slump she is in just like the rest of them, and I think the better the pitching we face the better we will be when it matters.  I am extremely positive about this team, and have not thought twice about the loss last night.  In a 50 plus game season you are going to have games where the ball just doesn't bounce your way.  As a fan all we can hope is that the ball starts bouncing our way for about a month straight in the last part of May. 

    As far as leadership, I think that this "young" team has leadership from few different people.  And I think this team has the pitching staff to....well I just think that we have key pieces and key places.  Anyway Roll Tide Roll, here is to today!!!!!!
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I know that I didn't say that RiBo wasn't a leader???  I said we need her to be more consistent and I will stand by that???  And I think she has time to work out of any slump she is in just like the rest of them, and I think the better the pitching we face the better we will be when it matters.  I am extremely positive about this team, and have not thought twice about the loss last night.  In a 50 plus game season you are going to have games where the ball just doesn't bounce your way.  As a fan all we can hope is that the ball starts bouncing our way for about a month straight in the last part of May. 

    As far as leadership, I think that this "young" team has leadership from few different people.  And I think this team has the pitching staff to....well I just think that we have key pieces and key places.  Anyway Roll Tide Roll, here is to today!!!!!!

...you didn't say it mickey, I did.  my comments was "Kelsi, Jackey pitching and Larsen have been team leaders.  I agree that Ribo needs to be a leader too and so far this year that has not been the case."

Leadership to me is performance.  I will admit that Ribo is one of my favorite players and maybe my expectation is higher of her, kind of like one is with one of their children.
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Oh, I must have missed a couple while I was trying to get caught up...I

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