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woody

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There is no grey area. Black and white, wrong or right. No privilege of denial. Choose a side, life, or death. Ugly, but a very simple decision and result. No judgment from me, choose your own path.
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I haven't called anyone a baby killer...


That's good.  I was just trying to make a simple point.  If you're an individual who wants those who refuse to support criminalizing abortion to help reduce abortions in this Country, calling them a baby killer or murderer will only destroy that opportunity.





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Life is life

- mikec
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Some lives are more equal than others.
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Life is life

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Depends on what the meaning of is is
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Ouch
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Does life begin at conception?
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Some lives are more equal than others.


One resident of the United States is more important than millions of unborn lives evidently.
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Fresh - imo yes it does.
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Does life begin at conception?

Hard to determine when life begins.  Certainly by the time conscious thought begins.  

Conception is not an unfounded or religious nut argument.  That group of cells, if left alone, will thrive to become a beautiful baby.  It takes human interaction to stop that from happening.  That interaction is most definitely altering the course of that 'baby'.  

Criminalizing abortion is not going to happen in today's political environment.  It is an 80/20 argument.  So a waste of time in my humble opinion.

So is unlimited right to terminate a pregnancy.  80% do not support a system with no limits.  

Much better working to spend time on reasonable alternatives.  On reaching across the aisle to rebuild our adoption system, shoring up our foster system, on pushing abstinence, birth control, safe sex, being responsible acting individuals.  

Easy to come up with a list everyone agrees on.  Only far left and far right extremes have to get stuck on criminal debate.   So go ahead and have that debate.  Meanwhile real babies are dying, and young mothers are making impossible decisions as they have no reasonable alternative. 


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Hard to determine when life begins. 


Nah, it's very easy..........It begins at creation..........
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Embryos are not babies, abortion is legal, deal with it. The same crazy conservatives and crazy christians who obsess about abortion are the same crazies who are perfectly happy when the GOP does all it can to stiff under-privileged Americans, which makes them the worst sort of hypocrites. They insist that poor women with few prospects have kids that they won't be able to raise properly--kids that often end up in jail or in foster homes--and then want to heap hardships on those same kids as they grow up. Hypocrites. Nobody likes abortion--but women should be free to make their own life and reproductive decisions. They don't need old white men and religious crazies poking their noses in their lives and trying to tell them how to live--The American Taliban, the Christian Taliban. Live your lives and leave women alone. 

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I'm glad kazoo aborted some of her offspring
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Embryos are not babies, abortion is legal, deal with it. The same crazy conservatives and crazy christians who obsess about abortion are the same crazies who are perfectly happy when the GOP does all it can to stiff under-privileged Americans, which makes them the worst sort of hypocrites. They insist that poor women with few prospects have kids that they won't be able to raise properly--kids that often end up in jail or in foster homes--and then want to heap hardships on those same kids as they grow up. Hypocrites. Nobody likes abortion--but women should be free to make their own life and reproductive decisions. They don't need old white men and religious crazies poking their noses in their lives and trying to tell them how to live--The American Taliban, the Christian Taliban. Live your lives and leave women alone. 

The left:  "Stop caling us Baby Killers!!"
Kaploo:  "Hold my beer!!"


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Love the “it’s her body, her choice” argument. How about she chooses to not get pregnant in the first place. Only stupid Kaplooey would make the statement that the GOP insists that poor people have babies.
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The left says it's all about the woman's choice....unless that woman isn't born yet.
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K - are you saying that women aren't smart enough to avoid getting pregnant, so the must have on-demand abortion available?

Seems a little degarding to me.
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To be honest, some people are walking around barely conscious of the fact they are part of the human race. And they are breeding more of their kind. Democrats have killed millions of their own voters through infanticide. They must need amnesty for illegal aliens to replace the voter base they slaughtered.
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To be honest, some people are walking around barely conscious of the fact they are part of the human race. And they are breeding more of their kind.



Unfortunately, there is truth in humor...or is it humor in truth?


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Yes, it would be nice if all women were wise enough to avoid getting pregnant until they were ready to have a baby. Unfortunately, some/many aren't wise enough--and even when women try to be smart stuff happens. That doesn't mean they should be forced to have babies who will not be raised properly and therefore will grow up to have problems themselves. That is the cycle: People with problems have babies who then have problems. Who do you think is in prison in America? They are people who were raised badly--who had $hitty childhoods and grew up in troubled households with single-moms who shouldn't have got pregnant or had a baby (or babies) in the first place. And yet the christian crazies want more of this....oh, my. 

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That doesn't mean they should be forced to have babies


Your lack of compassion for human life is striking.

And you're blatant racism is showing the true colors of the left.  It's a far more racist statement than anyone on the right has made.  We will see if Fresh shows up.
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Plenty of people in the world willing to give a baby a beautiful life.  Share their home.  Treat them like they are their own.  

I know great couples that spent 8, 10, 14 years waiting for adoptive babies are longer term fosters.  

There are options.  We just need to make them easier, more advantageous.  Ignoring these reasonable alternatives is immoral. 

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I know several gay couples that will make wonderful parents.  Waiting as long as it takes to get a chance to have a child in their lives.  



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Why are dems so “unwise” as Kaplooey puts it. Why is he throwing minorities under the bus with his inferences. . Probably because it’s not an election cycle. The only time they pretend to care
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Kasich vetoes a fetal heartbeat bill in Ohio but passed bill on dilation:

On Friday, Kasich signed Senate Bill 145, which would ban a common second-trimester abortion procedure called dilation and evacuation and penalize doctors who perform them. Physicians could face a fourth-degree felony, punishable by up to 18 months in prison, for the procedure.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cincinnati.com/amp/2366674002



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For a supposed black man Kaplooey sure favors the genocide of black babies by PP that was started by an avowed white supremest whose stated goal was controlling the black population.
Must be hard to be so woke

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An estimated 16 million abortions have been performed on black women since 1973. Currently 1800 a day.
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An estimated 16 million abortions have been performed on black women since 1973. Currently 1800 a day.


I don't know how many abortions there are daily--I doubt your number--and I don't care. Nobody tells women to have abortions. Nobody persuades them. It's a personal decision usually arrived at after serious thought. It's called freedom--a word that I know means a lot to the rubes. 

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Def top 10 of insane Kplooeyisms
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I don't know how many abortions there are daily--I doubt your number--and I don't care. Nobody tells women to have abortions. Nobody persuades them. It's a personal decision usually arrived at after serious thought. It's called freedom--a word that I know means a lot to the rubes. 




"Several years ago, when 17,000 aborted babies were found in a dumpster outside a pathology laboratory in Los, Angeles, California, some 12-15,000 were observed to be black."
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