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spazsdad

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Nope. Dems don’t love abortion

This isn't in New York, this isn't in California, this happened just this week right here in Virginia.

@VAHouseDems proposed legislation to provide abortions up to just seconds before a child takes their first breath.

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Trying to decipher your post and I do agree that most Americans would agree to making late term abortions illegal.

We should start there and move towards conception.

See we are on the same page. 



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I know NY is in cases where the woman's health is at serious risk or the fetus is compromised. Not just on request. Not something you care to mention. Truth ain't in righties. Take away the lies and exaggerations and they are left with nothing. 
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Links, or are these your opinions?
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Nope. Dems don’t love abortion

This isn't in New York, this isn't in California, this happened just this week right here in Virginia.

@VAHouseDems proposed legislation to provide abortions up to just seconds before a child takes their first breath.

New York allows abortion up to the 24th week.  It does not even have to be a board certified doctor.  That was extreme enough.

Virginia allowing right up to birth is crazy.  

Democrats that are more reasonable should be speaking up and stopping these extreme views.  They are bad for the country. 

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That is another great myth by the left. The unicorn of mother’s health. It just doesn’t happen. I bet you couldn’t find 10 cases over the last 5 years that fit your scenario of serious risk to the mother’s health. Just be honest and say you are cool with killing babies if the mom wants to and move on
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I keep hearing dems want to reduce abortions, yet have yet to see an legislation that would lead anyone to think that way.
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Links, or are these your opinions?


Everything here is an opinion. I don't trust your sources and you don't trust mine. Stalemate. There can be no final resolution. Actually, you probably trust mine more, but you will just twist it around to your way of thinking.

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Give it a shot. Otherwise you are just spreading more misinformation about the left and abortion.

I don’t blame you for doing so.
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New York allows abortion up to the 24th week.  It does not even have to be a board certified doctor.  That was extreme enough.

Virginia allowing right up to birth is crazy.  

Democrats that are more reasonable should be speaking up and stopping these extreme views.  They are bad for the country. 


From Fox
New York, which last week passed a controversial law loosening the rules on abortion, is just the latest state to do so, as advocates say they fear the newly cemented U.S. Supreme Court could overturn Roe v. Wade.

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Your own words tell us everything we need to know about how you think regardless of what you try to imply.
No wonder dems are so good at telling others what their elected officials really meant

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So you are okay with this:

Under the Reproductive Health Act, non-doctors are now allowed to conduct abortions and the procedure could be done until the mother's due date if the woman's health is endangered or if the fetus is not viable. The previous law only allowed abortions after 24 weeks of pregnancy if a woman's life was at risk.

The Catholic Church was not:

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York, along with the Catholic Bishops in the state signed a letter condemning the bill, saying "our beloved state has become a more dangerous one for women and their unborn babies."
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So you are okay with this:

Under the Reproductive Health Act, non-doctors are now allowed to conduct abortions and the procedure could be done until the mother's due date if the woman's health is endangered or if the fetus is not viable. The previous law only allowed abortions after 24 weeks of pregnancy if a woman's life was at risk.

The Catholic Church was not:

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York, along with the Catholic Bishops in the state signed a letter condemning the bill, saying "our beloved state has become a more dangerous one for women and their unborn babies."


Where did I say that? I was showing oowwaa where the NY law was being changed. Try to keep up.

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So you are okay with this:

Under the Reproductive Health Act, non-doctors are now allowed to conduct abortions and the procedure could be done until the mother's due date if the woman's health is endangered or if the fetus is not viable. The previous law only allowed abortions after 24 weeks of pregnancy if a woman's life was at risk.

The Catholic Church was not:

Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York, along with the Catholic Bishops in the state signed a letter condemning the bill, saying "our beloved state has become a more dangerous one for women and their unborn babies."



Yeah, let's ask the Catholic Church for their opinion on any form of birth control. They go all over the world railing against poor people for practicing any form of birth control. Be damned that they can't afford any more children, just tell them not to have sex. That's fvcked up. 

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Barack Obama

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Where did I say that? I was showing oowwaa where the NY law was being changed. Try to keep up.


The law was changed. Read your own links.
spazsdad

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Virginia House Democrats propose legislation to allow abortions up until the moment of birth

Todd Gilbert (R): Where it’s obvious a woman is about to give birth...would that be a point at which she could still request an abortion?

Kathy Tran (D): My bill would allow that, yes

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Many Americans on the Right choose not to criminalize abortion and yet Rightists still try to turn it into a Left/Right issue.  It defies logic.  It's similar to TheNarrator criticizing those on the Left who choose not to support spending money on a wall when he holds the exact same position.  Some people just argue to be arguing.




If a Rightist claims only left-leaning people choose not to criminalize abortion, they are being partisan for political purposes.  Their primary interest is in denigrating their political opposition and their concern for reducing abortions is a very distant second.

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Virginia House Democrats propose legislation to allow abortions up until the moment of birth

Todd Gilbert (R): Where it’s obvious a woman is about to give birth...would that be a point at which she could still request an abortion?

Kathy Tran (D): My bill would allow that, yes


Several of us have commented here before that this was the real goal of the Democrats.  They are in favor of allowing a mother to kill their baby at birth.  Eventually, this will lead to the killing of the baby just after birth.  They don't respect life at all but rather want to promote any issue that gets them votes. 

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 They don't respect life at all but rather want to promote any issue that gets them votes. 



Here is a perfect example of a right-leaning individual ignoring the fact many on the Right do not want to criminalize abortion.  The goal is too often to ignore the issue is not a partisan one and instead attack the Left for holding a position against penalizing women who choose to have an abortion.





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Several of us have commented here before that this was the real goal of the Democrats.  They are in favor of allowing a mother to kill their baby at birth.  Eventually, this will lead to the killing of the baby just after birth.  They don't respect life at all but rather want to promote any issue that gets them votes. 


It’s important to highlight these laws when we hear of dems wanting less abortions. Their actions certainly do not match their rhetoric.
Will_I_Wynn

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Here is an explanation of the NY law on abortion.  Get your own information before believing all the misinformation others are spreading. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46994583

This is part of the reason there is so much talk about this new law...

"However, the most controversial aspect of the RHA is the provision allowing abortions after 24 weeks in cases where there is an "absence of foetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient's life or health".

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When an individual, President or otherwise, mocks women’s looks and trashes fellow human beings, it’s a sad representation of mankind or, in this case, a sad representation of our Country as a whole.  If this man were a Teacher, Producer, Coach, Scout leader, or some other person expected to handle himself with integrity, he’d be long gone from his position by now.

Security for all (defense) safety for all (Police and fire) education for all (K-12) and healthcare for all (universal health care) are not Socialism.  They're American values.

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Yeah, let's ask the Catholic Church for their opinion on any form of birth control. They go all over the world railing against poor people for practicing any form of birth control. Be damned that they can't afford any more children, just tell them not to have sex. That's fvcked up. 

He has a point here.  Many take extreme positions.  If they would just take a step back and say our ultimate goal is to reduce late abortions, then mid term, and then early term abortions.  Then it must be that abstinence, birth control, IUDs, Day After Pill, are preferred to the alternatives.  And of course bringing back adoption remains a viable option.

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Several of us have commented here before that this was the real goal of the Democrats.  They are in favor of allowing a mother to kill their baby at birth.  Eventually, this will lead to the killing of the baby just after birth.  They don't respect life at all but rather want to promote any issue that gets them votes. 

The democrats real goals are quite often obvious. 

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Just like when they say they don’t want to take away all guns
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The democrats real goals are quite often obvious. 


Think of it, 24 weeks is 6 months.  For any reason up to 5 1/2 months.  No Doctor's order.  No reason needed except that the female says that she has had enough.  Again, remember when the left said that the aborted life was a fetus and that it didn't even resemble a human.  Now, it is 5 1/2 months old.

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I put no stock in the Catholic Church.  With their history, they have no right to preach.  I'm all for birth control (but not on my taxpayer dime).  
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When individuals who can live with legal abortion in the early weeks are denigrated, it makes any larger discussion about legality at 24 weeks next to impossible.


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Security for all (defense) safety for all (Police and fire) education for all (K-12) and healthcare for all (universal health care) are not Socialism.  They're American values.

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So the child’s life is less important than the mothers to those that are pro-choice.

Man, makes you think back to a time in our society when we thought that about another group of people.
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Another reason the woman and her doctor should make the call. If the mother is told she’ll die without an abortion, might be best she make the call rather than the rest of us.


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When an individual, President or otherwise, mocks women’s looks and trashes fellow human beings, it’s a sad representation of mankind or, in this case, a sad representation of our Country as a whole.  If this man were a Teacher, Producer, Coach, Scout leader, or some other person expected to handle himself with integrity, he’d be long gone from his position by now.

Security for all (defense) safety for all (Police and fire) education for all (K-12) and healthcare for all (universal health care) are not Socialism.  They're American values.

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Originally Posted by CoachB25


Think of it, 24 weeks is 6 months.  For any reason up to 5 1/2 months.  No Doctor's order.  No reason needed except that the female says that she has had enough.  Again, remember when the left said that the aborted life was a fetus and that it didn't even resemble a human.  Now, it is 5 1/2 months old.

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Awesome picture coach.

Unique from day one.
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