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uwApoligist

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What does this mean..............

It means you are wasting your time trying to criminalize abortion at anything below 10 weeks in current day America.   If that were truly your goal, you are wasting time here with me. 

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It means you are wasting your time trying to criminalize abortion at anything below 10 weeks in current day America.   


I think they just want you to say you favor criminalizing abortion at any point of the pregnancy. 

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Can anyone tell me why our government subsidizes abortions but not adoptions?
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https://www.thoughtco.com/does-government-fund-abortion-3533712

https://www.familyeducation.com/life/adoption-cost/government-funding-adoption

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Making abortion legal is just de-legitimizing America's heritage............

It's a sign of the heart of a nation.........To make this ugly and immoral act legal, murder had to be re-defined...........An age limit was put on when it was legal to murder a baby...........

Since murder has been re-defined, marriage has, also, been re-defined.........Queers marry which will lead to folks marrying animals some day............

And, girls can become boys and boys can become girls..........Some can be both, or, neither..........

Getting thrown in the slammer was re-defined to being incarcerated..........And, has since become a badge-of-honor to young kids......... 

And, liberal-thinking folk are sleep-walking while a once great America has lost it's way...........America's heart has been stolen by the corruption of our politicians...........

Both parties are to blame..........But, it's very obvious to anyone with even half-a-brain that the Democrats will greatly speed-up the demise of America if we let 'em...........
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One of the biggest lies ever told is that it's a woman's body and she can do with it what she wants.  It's another human inside that woman and, like it or not, God made women the bearer of children.  All the SJW whining will never change that biological fact.

If you want to be pro-choice, choose not to insert your penis unprotected into a vagina.  That is choice.

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Kinda makes you wish you had a god to lean on.......doesn't it?
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Kinda makes you wish you had a god to lean on.......doesn't it?


Wishing has nothing to do with it.

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Makes one wish America would become a nation which sets the example for the rest of the world as we once did...........Get back to what made America great...........


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I prefer to stop the drugs and human trafficking first.


No you don't, Freshy.........Until Trump came along drugs and human trafficking weren't even on your radar..........

What you prefer is to put Dems in office...........And, you claim you don't lie..........
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We can argue on semantics, time frame, ... Personally, I will never understand why this isn't murder.  The problem then is that the left is busy advocating for all of their high and mighty causes while, at the same time, murdering a baby that can't defend itself.  Now, the left doesn't even hide its agenda under the "fetus" argument.  Now, they advocate for murdering that baby up and right at the moment of birth.  ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS THIS IS A MURDERER OF INNOCENT BABIES!
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Are you saying a morning after pill is murder?  Really?

As I've said before, until more on the Right move away from the extremism and work respectfully with those who would like to reduce abortions, both Left and Right, the number of abortions will remain higher than what they otherwise might be.



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Wynnie?  Freshy?
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Wynnie?  Freshy?


Is an IUD abortion?

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Anything that unnaturally puts an end to a conceived child is murder.
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According to the Catholic church, an IUD, BC pills, and even condoms are a sin. Is an IUD abortion? I don't see that it is, but others may have a different opinion. The IUD stops an egg from attaching to the uterine wall. Millions of eggs are produced daily by women. If they are not fertilized, don't attach and develop, is it an abortion? No.

OTOH, if a baby is in the 3rd trimester, and the mother is induced into labor, and the child has it's brain and spinal column severed during delivery, I would consider that not just abortion, but the murder of a child. Democrats, this is a bad, evil thing you are supporting. If somebody was doing the same thing to puppies on YouTube, there would be an outcry. This is the state sanctioned murder of a child behind closed doors. Somehow it is within the rights of the mother to butcher the child according to Dems. This is really F'd up and wrong. God will certainly punish us as a nation, or certainly the people that have enabled this atrocity through political avenues.

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Anything that unnaturally puts an end to a conceived child is murder.


After the fact medication, that prevents or destroys fertilization, may some day end most abortions by medical providers. How will the Right address that?



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According to the Catholic church, an IUD, BC pills, and even condoms are a sin. Is an IUD abortion? I don't see that it is, but others may have a different opinion. The IUD stops an egg from attaching to the uterine wall. Millions of eggs are produced daily by women. If they are not fertilized, don't attach and develop, is it an abortion? No.

OTOH, if a baby is in the 3rd trimester, and the mother is induced into labor, and the child has it's brain and spinal column severed during delivery, I would consider that not just abortion, but the murder of a child. Democrats, this is a bad, evil thing you are supporting. If somebody was doing the same thing to puppies on YouTube, there would be an outcry. This is the state sanctioned murder of a child behind closed doors. Somehow it is within the rights of the mother to butcher the child according to Dems. This is really F'd up and wrong. God will certainly punish us as a nation, or certainly the people that have enabled this atrocity through political avenues.




There it is. 

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After the fact medication, that prevents or destroys fertilization, may some day end most abortions by medical providers. How will the Right address that?


How will the Creator address it should be the question...........
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There it is. 

agreed.  Only logical stance on the matter.

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Correct - fertilization is the one point in the process that you can point to and scientifically say that life has begun.  That is the point when new DNA is then created.  But we've been sold a lie that it's not a human being until it passes through the vaginal canal.


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As far as IUDs, or morning after pills.  While not a huge fan of them if you look at them in isolation, by themselves.  If you look at them as likely alternatives to 10 week or 16 week abortions, they are hugely better options. 

Ultimately the best solution is to rebuild our adoption system and eliminate the need for later term abortions all together. 

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Or all abortions.  The number of weeks is inconsequential.
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That's the thing.  Like Fresh's idiotic arbitrary 20 week line in the sand.  It's all a slippery slope except at inception.

Here's an idea - stop fvcking unless you want to have a kid or you use protection.  The fact that there are still hundreds of thousands of abortions in this country each year is tragic.

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Or all abortions.  The number of weeks is inconsequential.

Day 0 or Day 1 answers that focus on the fertilized egg not seating in the mothers uterus wall, like the IUD and the Day After Pill,  are vastly preferred to anything later.   It is just reality. 

There are loads of natural causes that can interfere with the egg seating already.  For instance a yeast infection can cause the seating to be interrupted.  The IUD was actually invented to emulate these natural mechanisms that an interrupt seating. 



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That's the thing.  Like Fresh's idiotic arbitrary 20 week line in the sand.  It's all a slippery slope except at inception.

Here's an idea - stop fvcking unless you want to have a kid or you use protection.  The fact that there are still hundreds of thousands of abortions in this country each year is tragic.

"The fact that there are still hundreds of thousands of abortions in this country each year is tragic."  here we 100% agree.  A tragedy. 

There is no real slope in the logical sense.  The only slope is in the political reality on the ground.  80% of America resist, more than half strongly so, making abortion criminal for the mother.   That is a hard reality for which there has been zero movement for 60 years.  

We should teach abstinence in schools.  We should teach birth control in schools.  We should prefer IUDs and Day After solutions to week 5 and beyond term abortions.  We should prefer/fund/encourage adoption to abortion. 

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