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TheNarrator

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You’re doing some noble research.

Taking a comment about a single state’s early voting totals and equating it to a prediction of who would control the House is just not true, even for you.
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Originally Posted by Will_I_Wynn
Bluedog posted:

As you may recall, Democrats pushed a false hope to the rest of the liberal hordes. They kept screaming, “blue wave, blue wave!” Now, as things heat up for the 2018 midterms, Arizona is showing that the libs are colorblind. The “blue wave” is actually red!

Arizona’s public records show Republicans have outnumbered Democrats in the number of returned early ballots by a 15-point lead in the week since early voting began. Arizona is known to be a red state. However, the Dems thought they could muscle their way in by lying.

Edit: I took that to mean Dems wouldn’t take House.


Then you proved that you're a dumbass and when you ASS-ume, well you know.

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Originally Posted by TheNarrator
You’re doing some noble research.


You were wrong twice in an hour or so. I think you’d do best to move on. Your gotcha game talents aren’t what you think they are. Don’t try so hard. I told you I don’t post lies. I post my political thoughts and opinions. Disagree as you wish but don’t waste so much effort trying to hang a lie on me. The others don’t...they just call me a liar and hope readers believe them.






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2)  Telling Americans Obama born in Africa
3)  Telling Americans millions of illegals vote
4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

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I knew we could take this three days worth of what several meant

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Several is a word that shows size or number when you can't be specific or when you want to summarize.

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Will_I_Wynn

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I’ll just re-post to get back on track.


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Like several others inside here, I thought the Democrats controlling the House was beyond reach. I thought they’d never overcome the false claims and scare tactics utilized by this President, and would never garner the necessary votes, let alone 30-35 of them. President Trump told the voters a vote for a Democrat would be a vote for an evil person and could very well be dangerous to their children and other loved ones. Clearly I saw that claim as a complete lie, not unlike the claim Hillary would be locked up, but after several years experiencing the spell this man has over the people, I figured their personal fears would cause them to follow Trump’s requests. Fortunately, and much to my surprise, many Americans dismissed his false claims and voted Democrat.

The number one goal of Democrats was to somehow check the actions of this President. Mission accomplished. Better yet, I think they said House Democrats were supported by an 8 or 9 percent margin of Americans which was higher than 2016 which was higher than 2014. Someone also said young people voted Democrat two to one. That second stat is more important than many may know.

While the control of Senate and Presidency remain a State by State battle, I don’t see how the House ever turns back red again. Every recent election now sees an increase in Democratic Party popular vote. I doubt we’ll ever see Democrats stay home during midterms again due to a popular Democratic Party President they feel content with. That means each election will see Democrat vote totals grow in the House. The previous times Republicans won the popular House vote total can be explained away.

In 2010, the Right was inspired for two reasons. They objected to a Kenyan winning the Presidency and they were irate over large annual deficits. The Left was caught unprepared for this rage from the Right and the vote totals showed as much. Since then, the Right has thrown in the towel on large budget deficits so that anomaly is likely gone forever. I can’t think of any new issue that’s going to enrage the Right and reverse the huge win we saw yesterday when it comes to the House popular vote. Each subsequent election should now see an increase in Dem House members.

In 2014 a Democratic Party, content with a popular President, failed to show up in the midterm and paid the price. Lesson learned and I think that will never happen again as well. This election proved Democrats are voters to be counted on.

Couple these changes with the young voters breaking 2-1 for Democrats and I see House popular vote margins increasing each and every election going forward. Eight or nine percent winning margins should now grow to higher double digit victories as the young continue to contribute, the old fade away, and the demographics change.

After watching great numbers of Americans accept everything President Trump says as truth these last several years, I probably gave him too much credit towards influencing the results yesterday. I thought for sure the voters would fear harm to their families, because of supposed invaders from the South, and would think twice before casting a vote for the “party of crime”. I see now I sold the American people short.

It was a great day for Democrats and the much needed check of the Presidency is now complete. Earlier today, President Trump said the increase in the Republicans joining the Senate should help get more legislation through the Senate. Somebody needs to let him know that does absolutely zero towards getting legislation through the House.

No doubt a check on the President does not mean Democratic Party legislation is on the way. No such luck. Instead it likely means continued gridlock until the population changes, that are certainly coming, result in a political color change as it relates to some of these red States. It got really close in Georgia, Florida, and Texas, and I think it’s safe to say a few more years should be enough to turn these and more States to blue or close to it.

#CheckThePresidency






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1)  Telling Americans Hillary would be locked up
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4)  Telling Americans Mexico would pay for a wall
5)  Telling Americans GOP would introduce better healthcare plan

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You were wrong twice in an hour or so. I think you’d do best to move on. Your gotcha game talents aren’t what you think they are. Don’t try so hard. I told you I don’t post lies. I post my political thoughts and opinions. Disagree as you wish but don’t waste so much effort trying to hang a lie on me. The others don’t...they just call me a liar and hope readers believe them.







Settle down young man, you are getting emotional.

You have lied and intentionally misstated the postings of the right, and completely fabricated a story about voter suppression with no substantiation. Your research skills would have been better served debunking yet another lie.

Maybe it’s you who should move on to a new screen name.
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Dewey = Will I Wynn = George Costanza
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Will I Wynn is a poster who used to go by the name of Dewey.  He used to criticize people who did that.

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Several is a word that shows size or number when you can't be specific or when you want to summarize.


That’s some purty deep thought process. I can relate to that. Please continue. Beats the sh!t out of the average conversion on this forum.

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keepinitreal

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There are SEVERAL liars in the democrat party


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Dewey got his depends all bunched up today. Shouldn’t he be in a more celebratory mood.
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Settle down young man, you are getting emotional.

You have lied and intentionally misstated the postings of the right, and completely fabricated a story about voter suppression with no substantiation. Your research skills would have been better served debunking yet another lie.

Maybe it’s you who should move on to a new screen name.


Was that the Georgia fabrication or was that someone else's lie?

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Dewey got his depends all bunched up today. Shouldn’t he be in a more celebratory mood.


Ivanka says we should all be happy, it was a good day for 'Merica

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You’re doing some noble research.

Taking a comment about a single state’s early voting totals and equating it to a prediction of who would control the House is just not true, even for you.


Has he got to several yet so we can move on and dissect his 2nd paragraph?

We need to go back to square one here, this is a real sticking point because while they may have predicted that the Republicans might eek out a majority (by 2 or 3 is what they said), I doubt that Coach or UDub thought that it was "beyond reach" as duaine states in his lie.  NO ONE said it was "beyond reach", so Durden is therefore correct after all.

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Like several others inside here, I thought the Democrats controlling the House was beyond reach. 

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We need to clarify if UDub or Coach thought that it was "beyond reach" for the dems to take the House.  duaine trying to put words in folks' mouths again.
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I’ll just re-post to get back on track.



That was actually the start of things going off track.  You just off tracked them again.

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Math's on this is easy. 

- Pre Kavanaugh Dems had it locked up.  
- Post Kavanaugh Reps had it locked up.
- Down the stretch, Dems poured money into every race.  Every possible dime.  Big money.
- Too many republicans House of Representatives rejected Trumps help in their election.  
- You are just not going to offset that dem media onslaught by being a 'good guy', and 'working hard'.  You look at a Scott or Desantis, and how the used the President to bring in Presidential rally size crowds and attached media attention to leverage their efforts up and win big races.
- House members rejection of Trumps help massively suppressed the voting of normal republicans in that area.  

Republicans have a rule, only 6 years as a committee chairman, and then you are back down to a normal rep.  Unfortunately all these chairmanships got bunched together.  When they come up against the 6 year rule, it is way easier for them to retire and get money in the private sector.  So these seats fall completely open, no incumbent.  



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Ridiculous rumblings about lying and parsing words. I'm amazed at the number of posts they feel is necessary to counter Will's posts. They don't care, but.....but......but......Oh, they care. The red wave was never going to happen, the country is sick of a lying, corrupt administration. You fringe element types can continue to make excuses for them, but the truth is, we have the most illegitimate cabal ever to inhabit the White House. Republicans have taken to the mattresses in fear of the white supremacists, plain old racists and gun nuts that constitute a solid 35% base that trump leads around by the nose. Grow some balls, get across the aisle and get something done. I hope the dems start by getting trump's tax returns from IRS. He is way too worried about that. 

BTW, saying otherwise doesn't make it true, the red ripple took an ass whipping Tuesday. 

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Let's bottom line it, then.  You and Will believe Pelosi will be an adequate check on Trump. 

Waaaaaaahahahahahaahahahahahahahah

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Other than the Presidents I’ll advised obsession with Tester, name a race he tried to close and didn’t win.

Florida x2
Missouri
Indiana
Ohio

And best of all - your home state of GA

We know you are new to this, but the house losses were to be expected
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Trump almost got Tester as well.  Tester went from untouchable 6 months ago to a day and half nail biter that he just squeaked out.  
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Only one POTUS DIDN'T lose seats under his tenure since 1946.  Freshy is new to politics so it's understandable why he's so emotional.  UDub spelled out clearly the retiring GOP Congressmen.  The year of the woman.


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Serious question...This is the reality of midterm elections, so why is cnn and lib msm talking as if they have anything unexpectedly positive to crow about? I don't get it.



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The races that were lost were virtually unwinnable. That they got so close shows a crack in the 35% wall. Kemp lied and suppressed votes to get the win. Common tactics in trump world. 
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I missed your point with my prediction.  I had the guts to make one.  Did you?  I was wrong on both accounts.  The Democratic Socialist Party won the House.  They will all serve for 2 years and be up for re election.  I didn't go far enough on Republican gains in the Senate.  They will serve for 6 years, decide any nominations for the Supreme Court, be the jury in any impeachments, ...  So, there you go.  I was wrong.

I noticed you didn't respond to the list I created.  Again, I encourage you to push for those things I heard candidates campaign on that last week before the election.  Do it!

KIR, the list I provided were things I heard Democratic Socialist Party candidates say during campaigns.  Naturally, none of them wanted to talk about gun control that close to an election.  

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We need to clarify if UDub or Coach thought that it was "beyond reach" for the dems to take the House.  duaine trying to put words in folks' mouths again.


I didn't think it was beyond reach.  I tried to get informed on the races and was off by some.  For example, I didn't think Love would lose.  Hey, I'm man enough to admit I was wrong.  WIW, Fresh, ... aren't.  

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Democratic Party Voters must demand the following:

  • Impeach Trump
  • Impeach Kavanaugh
  • Repeal the tax breaks.  I am listening to a Democrat say this right now on Fox.  He is saying that all tax cuts must be rolled back.
  • Open the borders
  • Free college
  • Single payer healthcare or Medicare for all.
  • Mileage Tax
  • Guaranteed jobs.
  • Corporate Free Loader Fee - First mentioned by Obama where companies are taxed again for any profits. In essence a penalty for doing well.
  • Public Banking System for the poor. In essence a bank for poor people where the Federal Government gives them money at little or no interest.
  • $500 for every tax payer who makes less than $24,000 per year.
  • "Democracy Dollars" which are federal monies for child care and vacations based upon the European Model of work.

Each of the above has been touted for the 2020 Democratic Party Platform but were pushed by Democrats in this election. Why wait? Demand it now!


Do IT!  



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I missed your point with my prediction.  I had the guts to make one.  Did you?  I was wrong on both accounts.  The Democratic Socialist Party won the House.  They will all serve for 2 years and be up for re election.  I didn't go far enough on Republican gains in the Senate.  They will serve for 6 years, decide any nominations for the Supreme Court, be the jury in any impeachments, ...  So, there you go.  I was wrong.

I noticed you didn't respond to the list I created.  Again, I encourage you to push for those things I heard candidates campaign on that last week before the election.  Do it!

KIR, the list I provided were things I heard Democratic Socialist Party candidates say during campaigns.  Naturally, none of them wanted to talk about gun control that close to an election.  


Exactly Coach, you had the guts to put your prediction out there, duaine didn't.  My belief is that duaine lied yet again because the results were not believed to be "beyond belief" as duaine stated in your behalf.  You can swat that down right now.  Duaine said that several here thought the results were "beyond belief", so far we have found only he himself, felt that way.

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The races that were lost were virtually unwinnable. That they got so close shows a crack in the 35% wall. Kemp lied and suppressed votes to get the win. Common tactics in trump world. 


Please help me understand this.  It is important to me that my home state gets this right, so I want to be part of the cure, not the cause.

Please detail how votes were suppressed and such so I can get to work.

Thanks in advance.
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I didn't think it was beyond reach.  I tried to get informed on the races and was off by some.  For example, I didn't think Love would lose.  Hey, I'm man enough to admit I was wrong.  WIW, Fresh, ... aren't.  


Great point, I didn't think Love would lose either, no one saw that one coming.  She distanced herself from the Donald [I really don't blame her with his remarks on Haiti] and she lost.  Thanks for the clarification.

Now that Duaine lost another of his 'several' he's back to just UDub who he claims was shocked about the results.  His 'several' claim is what he has always done, sway the argument with innuendo, hyperbole, and LIES.

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Mike, your home state did get-it-right Tuesday..............[smile]
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Please help me understand this.  It is important to me that my home state gets this right, so I want to be part of the cure, not the cause.

Please detail how votes were suppressed and such so I can get to work.

Thanks in advance.


You can start by making sure all of your precincts have the extension cords that they need to run their voting machines.  Somehow that's Kemp's fault.

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