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pabar61

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pabar you ok?
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Yup - just wanted to bury WIW's message.
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Yup - just wanted to bury WIW's message.
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The banning of certain weapons seems a far cry from "total gun control" but, as far as the native Indian example goes, give each Indian the arsenal the Vegas shooter had versus a power with fighter jets and drones, and the outcome is likely much the same, if not worse.

Libs = dense with this argument. Never understood.

Their theory is that of course guns are not to stop the over reach of a tyrannical government.  The government has jets.

Of course they do.  And they are going to be great at using those jets against foriegn power.  If our government ever makes the type of overreach that results in citizens arming themselves it is most likely going to split the armed forces.  Even in a country like Turkey where most citizens are purposely undereducated and not given much self autonomy it splits the army.

Once the army is divided, even a bit, those jets value go to zero very quickly.   They require highly guarded bases to operate from, loads and load and loads of logistics.   

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Dang it UWA.
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Yup - just wanted to bury dewillie's message.

FTFY

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Dang it UWA.

hehe sorry.  you going to go on a bump rage again?

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hehe sorry.  you going to go on a bump rage again?


Nope - made my point.
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I live in a pretty nice neighborhood in an otherwise crappy town with the usual meth problems. Our hood is elevated and surrounded by orange groves. On Wednesday morning, my elderly next door neighbors notified me that someone(s) had broken into their home while they were sleeping, and started stealing sh1t. Their little dog started barking, they didn't see who it was, they called the county sheriff.

Last night at 11:50 pm, my doorbell rings. Me and the wife are in bed by 8, we get up at 4. As I wake up, wife says "that was the doorbell."  We rarely have visitors, and never that late. I grab the 12 gauge and the holstered 9, strap on the 9, and am at the front door within 30 seconds. No one there. Wife is freaked out, of course. She understands that dirtbags will case a place, see if dogs bark, see who's home, you non-libs know the game.

Anyway, as I lay back in bed hoping they'd come back, I had some quiet time to ponder this thread and you people. And I was damn glad we have an unfettered 2A.

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Scary stuff. Glad you had the arms to protect you and your loved ones, and didn’t have to rely on a a local LEO to make the trip out to write up a report after the fact. Remember when seconds count, the cops are minutes away. In the case of Vegas, they were an hour away before they breached the door and found a dead madman. The police will help if they can, but they aren’t a life line. That is our responsibility.
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Why does the left want this mother to not have her assault weapon?




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Not sure what point you're trying to make? Who tried to take her weapon? Looks like she used a semi automatic rifle to run some thugs out of her house. This is one of the good stories about gun ownership. Was there another story where they tried to take her gun?
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Not sure what point you're trying to make? Who tried to take her weapon? Looks like she used a semi automatic rifle to run some thugs out of her house. This is one of the good stories about gun ownership. Was there another story where they tried to take her gun?


Try to follow along.  Democrats want to take her gun.
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Try to follow along.  Democrats want to take her gun.


Which ones? Who tried to take a semi automatic rifle from a single mother in Detroit that obtained it legally? Missed that detail. Try to follow what I'm asking. You always answer something else.
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What the bill does:

The legislation bans the saletransfermanufacturing and importation of:

  • All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.

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"Democrats want to take her gun."


The Left, in general, understands the above is one person's opinion.  The Left also understands such opinions stated in such a broad manner aren't meant to suggest each and every Democrat wants to take her gun, but rather represents a generalized personal opinion.  We all have a right to our opinion.

The Right, to a large extent, is not as generous.  If they believe in a stated opinion, they call it truth.  If they disagree with an opinion, they call it a lie.  That's just the way it is in this divided Country of ours and we can thank outside influences for dividing us even more.  No doubt there are millions of adversarial twitter handles out there advocating taking guns away from Americans just to keep the tempers of our citizens at their peak.  It's critical we Americans understand these outside influences have infiltrated our everyday life, for the purpose of doing great damage, and make our case with that in mind.

As for the above "opinion", yes there are some Democrats who want to take away all guns.  A small percentage I would say but they are out there.  There are also Democrats who want to ban assault weapons albeit with likely differing definitions.  I suspect some of these same Democrats want to confiscate those currently owned by Americans while most just want to ban new sales without confiscating those already owned.  Needless to say, the position of Democrats, as it related to gun laws, varies widely and is too often inaccurately painted by the Right with a very broad brush.





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Dewey/Will_I_Wynn - why won't you address the issue that you have been accused of?  

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As for the repeated accusation I was noting, it's using multiple handles to make a political point in the UCS forum.  I don't do that and I'm confident readers know that's true.
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The lying hypocrite has spoken but he won't have the courage to weigh in on the thread about himself.
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How does adding a handle turn a normal weapon into an assault weapon.

Keep in mind that Fienstien has already stated that none of the proposed actions would have stopped the Vegas style attack.

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Is dewy Fife still weighing in on gun issues? I bet KPI knows more about guns than dewy
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Is dewy Fife still weighing in on gun issues? I bet KPI knows more about guns than dewy

KPI wields a highly dangerous strap on, of course she knew about guns better than Dewillie does. 

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Who can forget his armor piercing argument where he cited hollow point bullets in neighborhoods.



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Lost_1 - What, you want to mock and you want a response too?  Fair enough.  I was trying to cover all aspects of "bad ammo" in the opinion I was sharing.  I threw in another example to enhance my case, not because I have much knowledge between one and the other, but because I don't.  Some of these I know you can find some law enforcement agencies who oppose.  As for crickets, you can ignore my questions or chirp out a response.  As always, it's up to you.

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What the bill does:

The legislation bans the saletransfermanufacturing and importation of:

  • All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock; grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.


What did the bill do? One democrat wanting all guns confiscated does not a hard fast rule make. Who proposed this bill? State or Federal?
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What did the bill do? One democrat wanting all guns confiscated does not a hard fast rule make. Who proposed this bill? State or Federal?

You ether ban semi-autos or you do nothing.  banning barrel shrouds is dumb, or handles. or half the other things dems talk about.



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Can't ban semi's............Might have two burglars standing next to each other...........That calls for two quick shots - does it not?

I know Custer wished he'd had semi's............
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Can't ban semi's............Might have two burglars standing next to each other...........That calls for two quick shots - does it not?

I know Custer wished he'd had semi's............


How can you argue with this? Happens all the time. I'm 68, never came close to anything like this happening, but some of you obviously live in war zones. Shooting a human being standing in your front doorway might be a little harder for someone than you make it out. Some of us value human life.
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But, you gotta admit, Custer could've used 'em..........
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Or a Huey.
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