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woody

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An evil person with a common Ruger 10-22 semi auto .22 rifle loaded with hollow points at a 400 yard distance could have caused almost as many casualties, and not be as easily detected. So do we ban all rifles? Ban all ammo?
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Evil people will do bad things. Good people will stop them.
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Very interesting article written by someone who actually did a lot of research.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-used-to-think-gun-control-was-the-answer-my-research-told-me-otherwise/2017/10/03/d33edca6-a851-11e7-92d1-58c702d2d975_story.html?utm_term=.27d269615f64

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An evil person with a common Ruger 10-22 semi auto .22 rifle loaded with hollow points at a 400 yard distance could have caused almost as many casualties, and not be as easily detected. So do we ban all rifles? Ban all ammo?


Great point, it's those scary terms like hollow point, armor piercing, pistol grip, automatic fire, assault weapon and bump stocks that make them pee their pants

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An evil person with a common Ruger 10-22 semi auto .22 rifle loaded with hollow points at a 400 yard distance could have caused almost as many casualties, and not be as easily detected. So do we ban all rifles? Ban all ammo?

That's what the Dems want. They won't say it cuz they would piddle on the floor like a puppyfrom their nervousness but that is the goal.
I saw that old hag Feinstein on TV. She knows more about dildos than any firearm

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Before replies about the .308 being interchangable

"This time the civilian load is the hotter one. Combined with thinner brass, it's not safe to shoot in the larger, looser, 7.62 chamber. But you can shoot 7.62 in .308 chambered guns, which is why they're almost always .308chambered."


Same thing with 223 and 5.56.

It just goes to fully illustrate the complete ignorance of weaponry by talking heads.

There are 222, and 22-250 rifles, as well. Do any of the anti gunners know what they are, and what they are used for? Should any particular rifle caliber be banned? If so, we will create a wildcat cartridge, name it the Demo dumbass caliber, and Dems can take to the House Floor, and demand it's elimination. Ignorance is a terrible thing, but easily identified.

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Evil people will do bad things. Good people will stop them.



Then why do we stop them at such a pathetic, disgraceful rate as compared to EVERY other industrialized nation on Earth?

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That's what the Dems want. They won't say it cuz they would piddle on the floor like a puppyfrom their nervousness but that is the goal. I saw that old hag Feinstein on TV. She knows more about dildos than any firearm



"That's what Dems want." Lord, you angry right wingers literally have no shame. 

There is no doubt that media talking heads are not generally knowledgeable at a detail level about weaponry. Same is true of most members of congress.  Same is true of most Americans.

Here is what that means. The NRA and the 3% of Americans who own 50% of the guns ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE about guns. And those people DO NOT use that knowledge to help make things safe. Instead, they take advantage of that knowledge to cunningly avoid every possible regulation or documentation, including very reasonable ones. The NRA and you gun enthusiasts do not give one szhit about taking actions that will decrease mass killings and gun violence period. You just want to be able to obtain all the guns you want with minimal controls or regulation. 

The gun lobby and enthusiasts relentlessly mock those who don't name the guns correctly or get technical descriptions wrong. What a copout. 

Here is the point. It should be illegal for any person to ever possess any weapon whether original or converted or any other means, which has the capability to fire off a large number of rounds in a few seconds. The 2nd amendment guarantees the right to bear arms. It does not guarantee the right to own or possess mass killing machines or weapons of war. It also does not preclude the government from requiring responsible regulation and controls on gun owners.

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can't ban it if you can't define it
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"That's what Dems want." Lord, you angry right wingers literally have no shame. 

There is no doubt that media talking heads are not generally knowledgeable at a detail level about weaponry. Same is true of most members of congress.  Same is true of most Americans.

Here is what that means. The NRA and the 3% of Americans who own 50% of the guns ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE about guns. And those people DO NOT use that knowledge to help make things safe. Instead, they take advantage of that knowledge to cunningly avoid every possible regulation or documentation, including very reasonable ones. The NRA and you gun enthusiasts do not give one szhit about taking actions that will decrease mass killings and gun violence period. You just want to be able to obtain all the guns you want with minimal controls or regulation. 

The gun lobby and enthusiasts relentlessly mock those who don't name the guns correctly or get technical descriptions wrong. What a copout. 

Here is the point. It should be illegal for any person to ever possess any weapon whether original or converted or any other means, which has the capability to fire off a large number of rounds in a few seconds. The 2nd amendment guarantees the right to bear arms. It does not guarantee the right to own or possess mass killing machines or weapons of war. It also does not preclude the government from requiring responsible regulation and controls on gun owners.


 "The leftists shoots up a bunch of country western Trump supporters - it's supposed to draw the bitter clingers into a fight."

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You are a F'ing idiot. You are irrational. and have never been in a life or death situation. You live in an imaginary world of good and kind individuals. You have never had a pistol stuck in our face, never had to get down and dirty, and fend off an attack with a gun or a knife. You are a compliant victim in the making. F off puss. You are a victim in the making. Go walk your poodle you piss ant, and hope that somebody like me is in the vicinity when you start wailing. You are the doomed.


Guess we run in different circles. 68 years and counting. Still don't know how you differentiate 1 white guy with a gun from another? Guess the bad guys wear black hats?
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Just assume that everyone you come into contact with in a public setting, get mad at while driving, is armed. It changes the way you behave and interact with others. When you are walking through a parking lot with the wife, don't be ignorant of your surroundings, always have your head on a swivel.

Or be oblivious, whistle show tunes, and join the doomed. 

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By "Key Republicans" do you mean the same senators that always vote with the Democrats?
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Just assume that everyone you come into contact with in a public setting, get mad at while driving, is armed. It changes the way you behave and interact with others. When you are walking through a parking lot with the wife, don't be ignorant of your surroundings, always have your head on a swivel.

Or be oblivious, whistle show tunes, and join the doomed. 


I am so glad I don't have your negative, cynical eye to our society. I refuse to see things through your darkly tinted glasses. I have successfully navigated my 68 years without a single instance of the type of behaviour you describe. Ask Mikec about the part of Atlanta I live in. You hear stories and see news reports from around here, but I have never been scared to go out and do whatever I want. Went years and never locked our front door. I refuse to be a prisoner in my own society. 

"Just assume that everyone you come into contact with in a public setting, get mad at while driving, is armed. It changes the way you behave and interact with others."

This type of statement explains the reason I come here. I have no understanding of this type of reasoning. Call it naivete, call it ignorance. Call it irresponsible......I call it loving life and refusing to let isolated stories sour my disposition or enjoyment of same life. I feel sorry for you.
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Bump stocks are going, directly related to the amount of casualties, ask the hotel security guard who was shot at through the terrorist's door with 200 rounds. Key Republicans are in favor.


Bump stocks were approved by the ATF during the Obama administration.  Try again.
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I am so glad I don't have your negative, cynical eye to our society. I refuse to see things through your darkly tinted glasses. I have successfully navigated my 68 years without a single instance of the type of behaviour you describe. Ask Mikec about the part of Atlanta I live in. You hear stories and see news reports from around here, but I have never been scared to go out and do whatever I want. Went years and never locked our front door. I refuse to be a prisoner in my own society. 

"Just assume that everyone you come into contact with in a public setting, get mad at while driving, is armed. It changes the way you behave and interact with others."

This type of statement explains the reason I come here. I have no understanding of this type of reasoning. Call it naivete, call it ignorance. Call it irresponsible......I call it loving life and refusing to let isolated stories sour my disposition or enjoyment of same life. I feel sorry for you.


You live in a dream world. In the real world, there are evil people that will kill you and your loved ones for $10 worth of meth. You have survived 68 years because you haven't been cut out of the herd, or live in a gated community protected by others.

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Woody said...........
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 In the real world, there are evil people that will kill you and your loved ones for $10 worth of meth. 


Learn from what Woody is saying here..........

Even members of your own family who are on meth will kill you while you sleep...........It happens when they are going through withdrawals.........They go bananas and just want more meth...........Your life means absolutely nothing to them at that point...........Neither does their's..........Those withdrawals are worse than anything you can imagine...........
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Bump stocks are going, directly related to the amount of casualties, ask the hotel security guard who was shot at through the terrorist's door with 200 rounds. Key Republicans are in favor.

He was shot with 200 rounds and was still able to call the police? Thats superhuman

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I suspect that bump stocks will be banned.  Then, libs and Dems will high five and think the did something significant, and life will be good.
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"Just assume that everyone you come into contact with in a public setting, get mad at while driving, is armed. It changes the way you behave and interact with others."



This is good advice that I tell my kids all the time.

In HS, one of my daughters was with a friend coming home from school (friend was driving).  Her friend made a lazy lane change, and cut someone off.  That someone then harassed them for the next few miles, until they got to a light.  The someone got out of their car, and came up and banged on the window of the friend's car.  The friend, like a fool, rolled the window down, and the other driver slapped her face.

The other driver is damn lucky it was a 16 yr old girl they were confronting.  That would get you shot in a lot of places.

That is an example of what Woody is saying.  You get off - honk, do you have to do, then let it be over. 

I don't have any issues with that advice.
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If bump stocks don't get banned you can solidly look to one thing.  That lame blame republicans for everything diatribe that Hilary went on last night.

No one I know could give a rats arse about worthless bump stocks and GAT cranks.  Go ahead ban them.  Feel better.  

I am more interested in doing things that will actually reduce day to day gun violence, and understanding what motivated this shooter and any details on his execution that could be used to thwart like attacks. 

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ask mikec about the women shot in Atlanta for being white
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If bump stocks don't get banned you can solidly look to one thing.  That lame blame republicans for everything diatribe that Hilary went on last night.

No one I know could give a rats arse about worthless bump stocks and GAT cranks.  Go ahead ban them.  Feel better.  

I am more interested in doing things that will actually reduce day to day gun violence, and understanding what motivated this shooter and any details on his execution that could be used to thwart like attacks. 


Ban the possession of firearms by Black males between the ages of 12 and 40 in large urban areas. Death penalty if caught in possession. That would strongly deter everyday gun violence.

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Sounds logical.  As dewy would say "If it saves just one life, it's worth a try"
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 It should be illegal for any person to ever possess any weapon whether original or converted or any other means, which has the capability to fire off a large number of rounds in a few seconds.


I am by no means knowledgeable on gun ownership, but isn't this already illegal?

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It should be illegal for any person to ever possess any weapon whether original or converted or any other means, which has the capability to fire off a large number of rounds in a few seconds. The 2nd amendment guarantees the right to bear arms. It does not guarantee the right to own or possess mass killing machines or weapons of war. It also does not preclude the government from requiring responsible regulation and controls on gun owners.



Read up moron:


https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/national-firearms-act-nfa

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"That's what Dems want." Lord, you angry right wingers literally have no shame. 

There is no doubt that media talking heads are not generally knowledgeable at a detail level about weaponry. Same is true of most members of congress.  Same is true of most Americans.

Here is what that means. The NRA and the 3% of Americans who own 50% of the guns ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE about guns. And those people DO NOT use that knowledge to help make things safe. Instead, they take advantage of that knowledge to cunningly avoid every possible regulation or documentation, including very reasonable ones. The NRA and you gun enthusiasts do not give one szhit about taking actions that will decrease mass killings and gun violence period. You just want to be able to obtain all the guns you want with minimal controls or regulation. 

The gun lobby and enthusiasts relentlessly mock those who don't name the guns correctly or get technical descriptions wrong. What a copout. 

Here is the point. It should be illegal for any person to ever possess any weapon whether original or converted or any other means, which has the capability to fire off a large number of rounds in a few seconds. The 2nd amendment guarantees the right to bear arms. It does not guarantee the right to own or possess mass killing machines or weapons of war. It also does not preclude the government from requiring responsible regulation and controls on gun owners.


Just another moron from the left "not generally knowledgeable at a detail level about weaponry."



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ask mikec about the women shot in Atlanta for being white


Happened in midtown - across the street from my office - right after Trayvon Martin.  I heard the shots, and saw people flee the garage.

A guy was shot in the back of the head while pumping gas not too far from Fresh.  He got off at the wrong exit to get gas.  That was about 2 years ago.

Last June, down in Fresh's part of the world, and teen graduation party turned violent.  I think maybe 1 killed, and 7 or 8 shot.  That was all black on black.

Just about a week ago, a 19 year old at a club on the other side of town was shot and killed because he was wearing a blue shirt.

Unfortunately, lots of this crap around here.

Out my way, we only usually have to worry about bears (I saw one a few days ago) and now, mountain lions (spotted by folks a few miles away).  Oh, and a 10 pt buck yesterday that was snorting at my dogs when I took them out for a walk.  Wish I had my gun then.


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I am by no means knowledgeable on gun ownership, but isn't this already illegal?


depends on the mechanism - internal or external.
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You should be glad a government bureaucrat did not make law where there was none.

But read the news, Freedom Caucus others involved in discussing bill to ban bump stocks. Notice most of the silence from the gun lobby--not much to say when that many get shot.

Conservative columnist today calls for repealing 2nd Amendment. Let's just have a real discussion and stop going around the edges with panaceas.




Worked for Australia:


http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2015/11/10/australias-secret-gun-problem-exposed/


Australians may be more at risk from gun crime than ever before with the country’s underground market for firearms ballooning in the past decade.

Previously unseen police statistics show that the number of pistol-related offences doubled in Victoria and rose by 300 per cent in New South Wales. At least two other states also saw a massive jump in firearms-related offences during the same period.


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