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3leftturns

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https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Softball/Team-USA/Women

Two things I find interesting on an initial glance:

1. I guess Team USA figured they would let people know who was invited and declined to show up, so people would have a greater certitude re: who had been invited

2. Sahvanna Jaquish.... is she ceding her spot on the Puerto Rico team?

3. Wonder if they are going with two adult teams. Fifty-six accepted invitations, and their will probably be a few more, plus there is an open tryout on New Year's Eve

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https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Softball/Team-USA/Women

Two things I find interesting on an initial glance:

1. I guess Team USA figured they would let people know who was invited and declined to show up, so people saying Oklahoma is never invited have their yaps zipped up. Nine Sooners/Oklahoma alumna were invited

2. Sahvanna Jaquish.... is she ceding her spot on the Puerto Rico team?



What OU players have been invited and didn't show?
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Chamberlain and Parker, according to the website
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1. Oklahoma 9

2. Florida 8

T3. Oregon 6

T3. UCLA 6

5. Arizona 5

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Chamberlain and Parker, according to the website

Given "I guess Team USA figured they would let people know who was invited and declined to show up, so people saying Oklahoma is never invited have their yaps zipped up."...

Question remains for past camps - "What OU players have been invited and didn't show?"


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Given "I guess Team USA figured they would let people know who was invited and declined to show up, so people saying Oklahoma is never invited have their yaps zipped up."...

Question remains for past camps - "What OU players have been invited and didn't show?"




Exactly.  That was my question. 
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Given "I guess Team USA figured they would let people know who was invited and declined to show up, so people saying Oklahoma is never invited have their yaps zipped up."...

Question remains for past camps - "What OU players have been invited and didn't show?"


I am guessing they aren't going to reveal that retroactively.
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Surprised Megan Good didn’t get an invite
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Surprised Megan Good didn’t get an invite


BS politics. Most likely the best hitting pitcher on that squad.

Wonder if there are some other factors involved. Maybe declined the invite already?? 
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Ricketts, Abbott and Kretschmann... starting to round into form
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https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Softball/Team-USA/Women

Two things I find interesting on an initial glance:

1. I guess Team USA figured they would let people know who was invited and declined to show up, so people would have a greater certitude re: who had been invited

2. Sahvanna Jaquish.... is she ceding her spot on the Puerto Rico team?

3. Wonder if they are going with two adult teams. Fifty-six accepted invitations, and their will probably be a few more, plus there is an open tryout on New Year's Eve

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Softball not an official sport in the upcoming olympics why would USA need 2 teams leading up to 2020?

I don't understand the Junior team at this point, they play low level 18u teams and run rule them all summer. I don't know how that makes anyone better.

How many players not invited from current squad? Did any of the Junior team get invited besides UCLA's sophomore?
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I am guessing they aren't going to reveal that retroactively.


So what's the basis of original post that infers some sort of past history of complaints and no shows?
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Will they be steroid testing?
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So what's the basis of original post that infers some sort of past history of complaints and no shows?
There has been a fusillade of such criticisms and insinuations on this board... for starters

And, you may have made an inference. I was implying that that would have been a possible rationale, but also with a bit of sarcasm.


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Here is the short article about this that was on the Oklahoma softball page... 

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"Nine current and former members of the Oklahoma softball program have been invited to participate in the 2018 USA Softball Women’s National Team Selection Camp, it was announced Wednesday afternoon.

Former Sooners Shelby Pendley and Keilani Ricketts and current student-athletes Caleigh Clifton, Shay Knighten, Paige Lowary, Nicole Mendes and Sydney Romero are scheduled to take part in the camp, which takes place Jan. 1-5, 2018 at Eddie C. Moore Softball Complex in Clearwater, Fla.

Former Sooner Lauren Chamberlain and senior-to-be Paige Parker also received invitations but have declined to participate.

The nine invitations given to Sooners were more than any other program with Florida (8), Oregon (6), UCLA (6) and Arizona (5) the only other schools to receive at least five.

A total of 61 athletes were invited with 56 accepting the invitation. Those athletes who accepted the invitation to try out will vie for a spot on the 2018 USA Softball Women’s National Team roster which will compete at the World Baseball Softball Confederation Women's World Championship in Chiba, Japan, Aug. 2-12, 2018, the World Cup of Softball XIII and select invitational events.

During the selection process, athletes will participate in position drills as well as simulated games and be evaluated by the USA Softball Women’s National Team Selection Committee."

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In case anyone was wondering... 
Lauren Chamberlain recently underwent shoulder surgery (for what has been a nagging problem since her first year in the NPF) and will be unable to compete for a spot by the time of this selection process. She very much wanted to make this team - but will not be able to play until well after this takes place.

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There has been a fusillade of such criticisms and insinuations on this board... for starters

And, you may have made an inference. I was implying that that would have been a possible rationale, but also with a but of sarcasm.




Criticism about the past lack Sooners on team USA I will grant you.  But I'm not so sure that past "no shows" is a valid defense to that criticism.  Other than the Ricketts / NPF / Team USA squabble a few years back (which occurred AFTER USA camp as I remember)  I can't recall any other Sooners refusing a Team USA invite.        

Are you referring to the rationale for the past lack of Sooners? or the rationale for including the "declined invitation" asterisk on the invitees list?

FYI - I saw a tweet regarding Chamberlain declining the invite due to recent shoulder surgery.  Not sure on Parker, but I seem to recall someone indicating that she was not playing this fall...apparently due to some sort of recovery as well.    
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Criticism about the past lack Sooners on team USA I will grant you.  But I'm not so sure that past "no shows" is a valid defense to that criticism.  Other than the Ricketts / NPF / Team USA squabble a few years back (which occurred AFTER USA camp as I remember)  I can't recall any other Sooners refusing a Team USA invite.        

Are you referring to the rationale for the past lack of Sooners? or the rationale for including the "declined invitation" asterisk on the invitees list?

FYI - I saw a tweet regarding Chamberlain declining the invite due to recent shoulder surgery.  Not sure on Parker, but I seem to recall someone indicating that she was not playing this fall...apparently due to some sort of recovery as well.    
There was some Sooners infielder in the past couple years who was invited/made the team and didn't play in the summer. Don't recall the name off the top of the head

FWIW....

If I ran the zoo, I wouldn't ID the invited kids not trying out.

It seems awkward without stating that all the kids had injuries that prevented them from participating. Perhaps makes them look like entitled ingrates to some without such a disclaimer


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https://www.teamusa.org/USA-Softball/Team-USA/Women

Two things I find interesting on an initial glance:

1. I guess Team USA figured they would let people know who was invited and declined to show up, so people would have a greater certitude re: who had been invited

2. Sahvanna Jaquish.... is she ceding her spot on the Puerto Rico team?

3. Wonder if they are going with two adult teams. Fifty-six accepted invitations, and their will probably be a few more, plus there is an open tryout on New Year's Eve

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Softball not an official sport in the upcoming olympics why would USA need 2 teams leading up to 2020?

I don't understand the Junior team at this point, they play low level 18u teams and run rule them all summer. I don't know how that makes anyone better.

How many players not invited from current squad? Did any of the Junior team get invited besides UCLA's sophomore?


Really? Do you think there’s more competitive teams at the national level, than at the junior level? The National level has “low level 18u teams” also. Obviously, USA has the best players in the world, but to criticize the level of play across the world is an insult to countries trying to develop softball. The Junior National Team is an exact reflection of the National Team. The same top teams at the Junior level, are also the top teams at the National level. Everyone acts like pro players need to be installed to win the Gold. Granted, some of our best players are playing professionally, but in reality, 98% of our college players can beat the world. There are a multitude of college & pro players that can play & would represent well for the USA National Team.
Additionally, let’s not forget that the Junior Team played the National Teams at the World Cup (USA, Japan, Canada, Australia, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Philippines). The Junior girls competed very well there. That experience certainly helped make them better.

Attitudes such as yours towards international play is what caused the sport to be removed from the Olympics in the first place. Let’s try to legitimize the sport by understanding that every country is trying to produce a competitive team. The girls that don’t make USA’s National Team, have opportunities to go play for other countries. That’s just going to keep making the sport better at the international level.
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I hope so. Though it looks like me and you are the only ones who find it interesting.

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Ricketts, Abbott and Kretschmann... starting to round into form


So I guess the the drama with Ricketts and team USA a few years ago is now resolved? Wasn’t the issue that USA didn’t give her the amount of time she asked for to make her decision about the NPF
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Softball not an official sport in the upcoming olympics why would USA need 2 teams leading up to 2020? I don't understand the Junior team at this point, they play low level 18u teams and run rule them all summer. I don't know how that makes anyone better. How many players not invited from current squad? Did any of the Junior team get invited besides UCLA's sophomore?

Mulipola

Mendes, Lindaman and Garcia are the three other sophomores in that list

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So I guess the the drama with Ricketts and team USA a few years ago is now resolved? Wasn’t the issue that USA didn’t give her the amount of time she asked for to make her decision about the NPF
Yeah, well USA didn't have leverage then. They sure as hell do now
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Don't know the reason Paige Parker declined, but it was reported that she is recovering from some minor knee surgery and not playing any fall ball.
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Really? Do you think there’s more competitive teams at the national level, than at the junior level? The National level has “low level 18u teams” also. Obviously, USA has the best players in the world, but to criticize the level of play across the world is an insult to countries trying to develop softball.'

I was referring to the actual 18u travel teams the junior national team played throughout the summer. The JR national team competed well against the National teams, their time may be better spent playing 'up' against only those teams during the summer. It would seem a better setup for all the other countries to be able to play against like competition without JRs USA and Japan scoring double digits on their opponents.




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Some questionable selections especially with  the younger players.  One has yet to hit above .300 at the collegiate level!?
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Really? Do you think there’s more competitive teams at the national level, than at the junior level? The National level has “low level 18u teams” also. Obviously, USA has the best players in the world, but to criticize the level of play across the world is an insult to countries trying to develop softball. The Junior National Team is an exact reflection of the National Team. The same top teams at the Junior level, are also the top teams at the National level. Everyone acts like pro players need to be installed to win the Gold. Granted, some of our best players are playing professionally, but in reality, 98% of our college players can beat the world. There are a multitude of college & pro players that can play & would represent well for the USA National Team.
Additionally, let’s not forget that the Junior Team played the National Teams at the World Cup (USA, Japan, Canada, Australia, Puerto Rico, Mexico, Philippines). The Junior girls competed very well there. That experience certainly helped make them better.

Attitudes such as yours towards international play is what caused the sport to be removed from the Olympics in the first place. Let’s try to legitimize the sport by understanding that every country is trying to produce a competitive team. The girls that don’t make USA’s National Team, have opportunities to go play for other countries. That’s just going to keep making the sport better at the international level.

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I personally think that our outfit needs two U.S. teams beating on each other between events, even if there is a roster at summer's beginning that is locked in as the 'A' team. Every year.

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There was some Sooners infielder in the past couple years who was invited/made the team and didn't play in the summer. Don't recall the name off the top of the head

FWIW....

If I ran the zoo, I wouldn't ID the invited kids not trying out.

It seems awkward without stating that all the kids had injuries that prevented them from participating. Perhaps makes them look like entitled ingrates to some without such a disclaimer




One? Who’s name you don’t recall? (Rhetorical questions only). I don’t recall either!

Based on that I’d say the Sooner fans may have had a legitimate reason for their “yaps” to be “unzipped” until this year.
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One? Who’s name you don’t recall? (Rhetorical questions only). I don’t recall either! Based on that I’d say the Sooner fans may have had a legitimate reason for their “yaps” to be “unzipped” until this year.
"Whose"

And, do some perfunctory searching, and you will find it

 

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I believe the rift with Rickets is they wanted her to commit for more than just that year. I can't remember how many but they wanted a commitment for multiple years. Probably what helped get the Pro softball league and USA association cross ways. 
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