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Southie

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The thing most are missing is that there is a new ad. Look who he hired for TCU basketball. Jamie Dixon was great at Pitt in the ACC, and he went headhunting. It should be noted he was not the AD during the UT baseball search.

Seems Texas finally hired someone that knows college athletics. If he want to throw the funds, the sky’s the limit based on the above posters points.

Except TCU doesn't have a softball program.  Who knows if he ever even followed the sport.  I will have to go read his bio in more detail; someone mentioned he worked at Arizona, but not sure in what capacity.  Regardless, not like he's ever been involved in a softball head coach search.

As for Dixon, he was getting run out at Pittsburgh.  And, he had coached at TCU back in the day.  Easy hire for Del Conte.
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I dont really have a horse in this fight....just relatives horses....lol   That said Plonsky is still there.  She didn't go anywhere and I doubt she is just tickled pink to be the number 2. 

From what I hear and now have read today....well....she doesnt play well with others.    She has her folks and everyone else is poop.    I dont know what the price of admission is to her clique but it appears Clark was one of the chosen until you just couldn't say no.....

If she continues to act like an ass and mistreat people (as is rumored)  Then a great coach may not want the crap.   Who wants to be Jason Garrett with the wicked witch of the west looking over your shoulder.

SO as i posted here earlier it seems that the womens teams are just equipment and the real team is in the ADs office.  Until you fix that you either get a coach who wont last because they are chased off,  one who leaves because they dont have to put up with this junk or an internal fight that hurts everyone. I guess everyone could straighten up and fly right but of the 4 possibilities that seems to be the one least possible.


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That said Plonsky is still there.  
well, apparently powerless b/c Clark (who you say had her protection) is pushed out.  New AD is obviously calling whatever shots he wants to.

TEXAS WOMEN'S ATHLETICS UNDER CHRIS PLONSKY (2001-present)
NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS: 3
Team
Total
Year
Volleyball
1
2012
Track and Field (indoor)
1
2006
Track and Field (outdoor)
1
2005

And apparently is not very good at her job.   She's been there 17 years over ALL of women's athletics and has a measly 3 NCAA titles to show for it.   If I were her, I'd be concerned that the new sheriff in town will get to my exit interview in due time.

From her bio she seems to be good at PR and serving on committees, but if my instincts are correct about the new AD, that will not make up for a lack of NCAA titles.

I don't even need to look at the UCLA website, but just from memory in that time there have been NCAA women's titles in volleyball, beach volleyball, gymnastics, golf, tennis, water polo, softball, and if I took the time to add them up, there would probably be more than 15... compared to her ... 3.

OK, I was curious so I did look it up.   I forgot about soccer, indoor track, and outdoor track, and the total since 2001 is 20.

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Fordham coach, Orchard to go to Villanova.
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Fordham coach, Orchard to go to Villanova.
 If I were a coach, head, associate, or assistant, I would wait a couple of weeks before making a decision.   I think the entire salary range, which is currently about $20k to $800k,  is going to go up about 20% for anyone negotiating after the Texas opening is filled.

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 If I were a coach, head, associate, or assistant, I would wait a couple of weeks before making a decision.   I think the entire salary range, which is currently about $20k to $800k,  is going to go up about 20% for anyone negotiating after the Texas opening is filled.


Which coach pulls 800k?
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Which coach pulls 800k?
Gasso.  It is about $750k plus an annual bonus for "staying" of $200k.  

http://www.normantranscript.com/sports/all_ou_sports/ou-softball-recognized-gasso-gets-raise-lombardi-named-nation-s/article_ad281b01-23e0-5a61-97c0-725c8f7686cd.html

Clearly, actually winning in OKC vs. "being a legend" pays.



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Also, regarding any possible stadium expansion.  SPACE is a major issue at Texas and they would likely have to demolish and build in the same footprint making the project difficult timing wise.  The Texas athletic department will need to COMMIT to the program if they hope for it to go anywhere and currently they have not done that.
that is what oregon did... from June 1, 2015 to late March 2016
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well, apparently powerless b/c Clark (who you say had her protection) is pushed out.  New AD is obviously calling whatever shots he wants to.

TEXAS WOMEN'S ATHLETICS UNDER CHRIS PLONSKY (2001-present)
NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS: 3
Team
Total
Year
Volleyball
1
2012
Track and Field (indoor)
1
2006
Track and Field (outdoor)
1
2005


And apparently is not very good at her job.   She's been there 17 years over ALL of women's athletics and has a measly 3 NCAA titles to show for it.   If I were her, I'd be concerned that the new sheriff in town will get to my exit interview in due time.

From her bio she seems to be good at PR and serving on committees, but if my instincts are correct about the new AD, that will not make up for a lack of NCAA titles.

I don't even need to look at the UCLA website, but just from memory in that time there have been NCAA women's titles in volleyball, beach volleyball, gymnastics, golf, tennis, water polo, softball, and if I took the time to add them up, there would probably be more than 15... compared to her ... 3.

OK, I was curious so I did look it up.   I forgot about soccer, indoor track, and outdoor track, and the total since 2001 is 20.

DUDE.....that's all great....we agree to a point....But if you dont have your own little oligarchy at a place like Texas....YOU CANT stay there 18 years with those results.   

These guys have more money than the catholic church....The one thing she apparently does well is handle money....at least on the mens side.   Shes big on title IX   I mean I am too it paid for most of my DDs degree. But in the end it appears shes  not a great person and what I really know about the politics of small groups is....She aint gone so shes still gonna fight...

I wouldn't wanna go play that game.  I got things to do and team to coach dont need  The input I promise your gonna get  from someone who will still demand butt kissing.   

There will be blood....Until shes gone.   


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The Plonsky era was at its height during the Jody Conradt and went down during Steve Patterson's brief reign and came back during Mike Perrin's term because he was only interested in football.  CDC is in complete control and has said Texas will not have mediocrity in any sport.  Most of us thought Connie won enough to buy another year but if you look at the pitching and hitting and the 4th place finish in the Big 12, she could not stay.  The big losers are A&M and Baylor who have some great players because Connie was asleep.  Texas now has a chance to become a solid program as Texas has done in women's basketball.
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Most of us thought Connie won enough to buy another year but if you look at the pitching and hitting and the 4th place finish in the Big 12, she could not stay.

Of the different Longhorn message boards I frequent, the majority of posters have wanted Clark gone for the last 3 years or so.  She scheduled a really weak non-conference schedule in 2017 hoping to camouflage the shortcomings, but most of us saw right through that.  Surprisingly, she scheduled much tougher in 2018; and, the won/loss record was on par for the average talent in the program.  She benefitted from playing all the weaklings in the Big 12 early on; but, when it was time to face OSU, OU, and Baylor at the end of the conference season, a 1-8 record confirmed Texas' standing in the conference, and that things would continue on the downward spiral under her guidance.

I'm sure there were plenty of reasons (prior to the 2018 season) why she was in the last season of her contract with no indications of any kind of extension.  Let's face it, she was a lameduck coach this season.  Texas was just allowing her to finish out her contract based on her loyalty for the last 22-23 years.
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the ironic thing is that I think she actually believes her performance was OK... if you read her comments on "stepping down", she made some ridiculous comments about "going out on her terms", and something about leaving the program in great shape for the successor.

Most of my professional career was in high tech sales.   You talk about a brutal environment, most who try it fail within a year.  There is no such thing as being great for 5-10 years, then getting to slide for another 10.   Every single year you perform, or the following year you're on a short leash, and half the time at the end of that probation year, you're out.   I think this AD will look at performance the same way sales departments of companies do.

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the ironic thing is that I think she actually believes her performance was OK... if you read her comments on "stepping down", she made some ridiculous comments about "going out on her terms", and something about leaving the program in great shape for the successor.

Her words were just coach-speak.  Texas allowed her to phrase things as she wanted based on her 23 years of service since the program's infancy.  Bottom line is that you can't step-down if your contract has basically expired.

Her quotes after the season-ending loss against Minnesota were to the effect of "It's so tough to be done".  She knew what was next.
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Surprised that if a school like Texas makes a move, that fellow conference members Kansas and Texas Tech would not as the programs at these two schools are badly under performing in comparison to Texas in softball.
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Seems the Presbyterian Coach is out. Can anyone confirm?
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Seems the Presbyterian Coach is out. Can anyone confirm?


Pretty sure she’s been out for almost a month now. I’d assume the whole staff is gone.
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Seems the Presbyterian Coach is out. Can anyone confirm?


Yes, announced like a month ago right at end of the season.
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Larissa Anderson - Missouri
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Larissa Anderson - Missouri


This is for certain? She has been at Hofstra for years...
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Larissa Anderson - Missouri


Well, crap. 
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http://www.justinsworldofsoftball.com/news/missouri-to-name-larissa-anderson-as-head-coach
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Did not see this coming at all...
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Villanova is about to hire Bridget Orchard.
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Surprised that if a school like Texas makes a move, that fellow conference members Kansas and Texas Tech would not as the programs at these two schools are badly under performing in comparison to Texas in softball.
don't have the money.   You get what you pay for, and if a mid level school like that lucks out with a coach who overperforms their salary, they get hired away within 3-4 years at a price those schools can't match.

For those types of schools who inhabit the middle or just below the middle of their Conferences generally in most sports, the AD has to be super smart in their hiring, and has to repeat that smartness it every few years when their smart hire leaves.

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Did not see this coming at all...


Hmmm . . . . I don't think you can win @ Mizzou without recruiting the west coast.  Anderson has never done that.  Formula @ Hofstra was to attract the best kids on the island, and add talent from Delaware to Rhode Island.  That was fine for a mid-major but the formula in Columbia is going to require westward tilt.
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Hmmm . . . . I don't think you can win @ Mizzou without recruiting the west coast.  Anderson has never done that.  Formula @ Hofstra was to attract the best kids on the island, and add talent from Delaware to Rhode Island.  That was fine for a mid-major but the formula in Columbia is going to require westward tilt.

That’s going to be a really tough task, as it will mean recruiting against UCLA, Oregon, Arizona, Arizona State, and Washington, who all draw a lot of talent from the area. Trying to convince those players to leave a nicer part of the country to join a less successful program is going to take one hell of an effort. I like this hire a lot for Missouri, but recruiting the west coast at a high level isn’t gonna happen.
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That’s going to be a really tough task, as it will mean recruiting against UCLA, Oregon, Arizona, Arizona State, and Washington, who all draw a lot of talent from the area.
Not only them, but often the best player on Oklahoma and Florida have been from California... Lorenz at the moment, Nelson was the Gators first great pitcher.  Alo is from Hawaii... Chamberlain from CA, also that great catcher Shults.  Don't forget Monica Abbott was from CA, and at OK the great lefty Ricketts.   

Basically most elite teams outside the PAC have one or two impact player west coasters.


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That’s going to be a really tough task, as it will mean recruiting against UCLA, Oregon, Arizona, Arizona State, and Washington, who all draw a lot of talent from the area. Trying to convince those players to leave a nicer part of the country to join a less successful program is going to take one hell of an effort. I like this hire a lot for Missouri, but recruiting the west coast at a high level isn’t gonna happen.




I agree this is an excellent hire. And there is never just 1 way to have a successful program. It is simply not accurate that the only way to succeed at Missouri is to beat UCLA, Wash, Oregon, Ariz, etc for the best west coast recruits. There are several possible avenues for Missouri to get strong recruits and I'm sure she is smart enough to direct her pursuits in ways that are feasible for success. 
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I believe Alabama won a championship without a single Cali kid.....yes, you need to identify talent, but ultimately it comes down to coaching the talent you have and I think Larissa has done a pretty good job of that. If you take a look at just the top pitching in the tournament you will find they come from all over now, not just SoCal. Parker- Missouri, Lowery-Iowa, Barnhill-Georgia, Kliest-Wisconsin. Perhaps with those players Mizzou is right in the middle of a wealth of talent.... 😉
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Lawson has built a successful program at Kentucky recruiting regionally so no reason to think Missouri can't do the same.  However one way or another she is going to have develop her recruiting contacts in a different part of the country than what she has in the past.  The biggest adjustment she is going to have to make IMO is coaching and playing against a good well prepared team every weekend.  There is a whole other level of effort that goes into preparing for that.  Hopefully she can, but it is a significant adjustment and is a daunting task for any coach coming from a mid-major environment.
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