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spazsdad

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Posters here act like MD is the only school that has a conditioning test that must be passed. Every kid I have known from TB has one both in the fall and after winter break. And yes, no pass no practice not to mention it puts you in a bad light with the coach.
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I don't believe the conditioning test was in question here. Yes, they are a standard both in the fall and spring. And most girls spend their summer preparing and conditioning. That is not the problem I have/had with MD. But dividing the team and turning them against each other and degrading them is where I have a problem. Say what you will...because I know you will!
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Conditioning is not for sport purposes but boot camp make them submit or else purposes. Personally I like Babe Ruth and I bet he would not pass the fitness test. It would have hurt his HR power.
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This dividing the team accusations are the truth. I have never heard of it anywhere else other than at Maryland. I can't imagine the goal or endpoint of it. It sounds like some kind of pathological sadist form of control. You see teams try team bonding exercises but never team unbonding. The conditioning excesses is another form of mind control that doesn't work. Maybe at the mid major level you can dominate weak kids but her style is not ready for prime time. Back to the little pond.
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Mid major....whatever.
You should get out more. There are plenty of coaches that play games and mind F their players. Obviously not right but there are plenty. It's only because of a few that MD is under the spotlight

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You are wrong there. You must be a Male Fatherly Hall of Fame coach with some world series rings to get away with it. Otherwise players revolt.
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You are wrong there. You must be a Male Fatherly Hall of Fame coach with some world series rings to get away with it. Otherwise players revolt.


You're naive if you think that way. 

Players revolt...what happens, they make the Coaches walk the plank?
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Remember the East Carolina softball team revolt that got their two long time coaches fired for having "an emotionally hostile environment"? It has happened before and in a lot of cases we just don't hear all of the facts. Maryland administration doesn't care at this point
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I'm sure there are a lot of coaches who think their players are revolting.  (thanks Mel Brooks)
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You are wrong there. You must be a Male Fatherly Hall of Fame coach with some world series rings to get away with it. Otherwise players revolt.

Players revolt. That's a good one.
Come out of your safe space and see the real world. Players put up with all kinds or crap because the school is paying their bills and they look at it like a job, a cost of doing business. Don't be so naive.

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Good lord, some of you people act like these are shrinking violets ffs.  This is business...for both coach and player!
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Good lord, some of you people act like these are shrinking violets ffs.  This is business...for both coach and player!

You are right. But in my experience, female coaches, if they are bad, tend to be more cruel. There are plenty of bad male coaches but they can't get away with the cruelty as much. It sounds sexist but ask plenty of women who is hardest on them in the workplace and they'll tell you women vs men.
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FDU hires Chris Foye..

http://fduknights.com/news/2017/9/13/chris-foye-named-head-softball-coach.aspx
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Hope Foye can keep them in the regionals. 
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Mickey Dean is headed to Auburn...

http://just-in-justinsworld.blogspot.com/2017/09/exclusive-mickey-dean-to-be-named-head.html?m=1

http://jmusports.com/news/2017/9/14/laporte-elevated-to-head-coach-of-jmu-softball-as-dean-departs.aspx
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The final season for Coach Julie Wright started out with a less than bang at the University of Maryland. They lost their game convincingly to Division 2 Shepherd and the Maryland pitchers were less than stellar to be kind. This is a sad state of affairs down there.
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Since Dillard and one of the Cali girls are gone, who caught?

I am switching my attention to Maryland Club Softball. They beat Navy a few years ago, a team that would be official anywhere else.


Heard that Kufta caught both games. Apparently was rough all the way around. Too many errors to count! Should be a bumpy ride......again!
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The final season for Coach Julie Wright started out with a less than bang at the University of Maryland. They lost their game convincingly to Division 2 Shepherd and the Maryland pitchers were less than stellar to be kind. This is a sad state of affairs down there.


Did Golden pitch?  She is good and I would find it interesting that she was less than stellar...
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Kufka's batting average will suffer. She is one of their best hitters. Not a good trade off.
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Did Golden pitch?  She is good and I would find it interesting that she was less than stellar...


More than one esteemed pitcher has gone backwards at Maryland.
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Did Golden pitch?  She is good and I would find it interesting that she was less than stellar...


Yes! She pitched!
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Players revolt. That's a good one. Come out of your safe space and see the real world. Players put up with all kinds or crap because the school is paying their bills and they look at it like a job, a cost of doing business. Don't be so naive.

Spaz...you're correct, it is a job.  And just like in any job, you're not always going to like your boss (coach) or coworkers (teammates); but its called adulting. Grow up, pull on those big girl pants and do your job.  If there is a clear description of your job expectations and roll on the team, then again do your job.  All too often it is seen in youth sports that the parents emotions are driving the players emotions.  Take off the blinders and realize your DD isn't the next big thing and her spot is and will always be in jeopardy if she can't get off of the pedestal her parents put her on. If she cannot be a good teammate, then she probably should've played a sport where she was the ONLY player (golf, tennis, swimming) win or lose, it's on THEM and nobody else to blame.
Collegiate sports is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT!!!! There will always be someone else waiting to take your spot if you're not willing to do whats required.
Yes...there are will always be coaches who push their players beyond what anyone should and they probably shouldn't be coaching.  But this hand holding / coddling crap is too much.  Our society is full of these weak, overly sensitive individuals who expect everything to be handed to them. 
off my soapbox now [tongue]
TruDat

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I couldn't make the long trip to Maryland but as I was told, Golden pitched the first game and did not do well. I mean, this was a mediocre D2 team. A big time pitching stud would have dominated or at least not have lost. There are reasons people hop ship and not doing well might be one of hers. She also did it with her pitching coach, who probably got the job because she had a pitcher that Wright needed desperately.  I also heard that Golden got hurt but not sure of the type of injury. I also understand that Maryland beat Mount St. Mary's 7-2 I have not seen them play in a few years but I don't think they'd be Big Ten quality.
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Spaz...you're correct, it is a job.  And just like in any job, you're not always going to like your boss (coach) or coworkers (teammates); but its called adulting. Grow up, pull on those big girl pants and do your job.  If there is a clear description of your job expectations and roll on the team, then again do your job.  All too often it is seen in youth sports that the parents emotions are driving the players emotions.  Take off the blinders and realize your DD isn't the next big thing and her spot is and will always be in jeopardy if she can't get off of the pedestal her parents put her on. If she cannot be a good teammate, then she probably should've played a sport where she was the ONLY player (golf, tennis, swimming) win or lose, it's on THEM and nobody else to blame.
Collegiate sports is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT!!!! There will always be someone else waiting to take your spot if you're not willing to do whats required.
Yes...there are will always be coaches who push their players beyond what anyone should and they probably shouldn't be coaching.  But this hand holding / coddling crap is too much.  Our society is full of these weak, overly sensitive individuals who expect everything to be handed to them. 
off my soapbox now [tongue]


Spoken like someone without all the information!

Not everyone who complains is sitting on a pedestal. Not every parent/player who has spoken up, has blinders on. The object of this board is to share information and share opinions, I get that! But where there is enough smoke, there's a dumpster fire! And that's what's happening at Maryland.

I can only speak for what I know to be fact. And the fact is, if your coaching philosophy is about building up your team, teaching skills to improve their skills and work towards a winning record, have at it! Push them, work them and above all COACH them. But if your philosophy includes segregation, bullying, intimidation, physical breakdown AND you can only muster up 23 wins in two years....perhaps there is something more than girls and parents wanting to be coddled. And as for the ones who spoke up....not sure I would refer to them as weak or overly sensitive, rather the opposite. You see, my mama always taught me it's harder to stand up and do the right thing than it is to look the other direction and say nothing!!

Just sayin.....
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This Maryland stuff really needs it's own thread.
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Doing a "good job"requires a boss who leads, communicates, and avoids drama. Don't think this is what the MD coach has in any way shape or form. So the players have every right to revolt if they do. But MD's roster is small so they need all hands on deck. As I said, freshman can get hurt because not used to the rigors of college softball.

it is easy to tout the entitled line (make it political that is) but not what is happening here. Especially with young women today. They work hard, listen to adults, and adults need to be careful in not taking advantage of the players' willingness to buy in and work and suffer more than outsiders think.
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I'm not sure about Golden, whether she got hurt or not. H er numbers and record were down in '17. I only saw her pitch a part of an inning against CP. CSF also had and Kessler.
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Narrator, let's pretend this is the Maryland thread, what difference does it make? If I were the coach at MD, I'd make sure I'd beat the crap out of teams in the Fall, given the poor/sh*tty record the past two years. To get beat by a team that you shouldn't even play speaks volumes about her and the team that is no longer Watten's or Deifel's. They have been long gone and she did not go out and get a legitimate catcher, gets a mediocre JC transfer student that is ineligible and picks up job hopper pitching coach that has a kid who has seen better days. As a fan of Maryland in the past I am speechless.
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I'm just saying there isn't going to be a 2017 Head Coaching Change.
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Spaz...you're correct, it is a job.  And just like in any job, you're not always going to like your boss (coach) or coworkers (teammates); but its called adulting. Grow up, pull on those big girl pants and do your job.  If there is a clear description of your job expectations and roll on the team, then again do your job.  All too often it is seen in youth sports that the parents emotions are driving the players emotions.  Take off the blinders and realize your DD isn't the next big thing and her spot is and will always be in jeopardy if she can't get off of the pedestal her parents put her on. If she cannot be a good teammate, then she probably should've played a sport where she was the ONLY player (golf, tennis, swimming) win or lose, it's on THEM and nobody else to blame.
Collegiate sports is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT!!!! There will always be someone else waiting to take your spot if you're not willing to do whats required.
Yes...there are will always be coaches who push their players beyond what anyone should and they probably shouldn't be coaching.  But this hand holding / coddling crap is too much.  Our society is full of these weak, overly sensitive individuals who expect everything to be handed to them. 
off my soapbox now [tongue]


If I have a job with a crappy boss, or with crappy coworkers that the boss tolerates, then I walk and get a different job.  Or I do something in the current job to find a different boss.  That's called being responsible for your own happiness and fate.  I don't eat crap that someone wants to dish out.  And I don't teach my kids to view life any differently.
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