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2010 Premier National Championship
Huntington Beach, CA

High School Division (18u)- August 9-14, 2010

The Premier National Championship will comprise 72 teams for the HS Division and 48 teams for the 16U Division.

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Sorcerer Gold
Gold Coast Hurricanes
Worth Firecrackers
So Cal Choppers
Corona Angels Marty
So Cal Athletics
Valley Breeze
Georgia Elite
East Cobb Bullets
Texas Storm Demarini
So Cal Pumas
Cal Cruisers
Tennessee Fury
So Cal Explosion
Tulsa Elite
Team Hawaii
TC Stars
Victory USA
American Pastime
Wagner's Maryland
Richmond Diamonds
Kansas Peppers
Cal Lady Magic
Washington Ladyhawks
Colorado Styxx
Irvine Sting
Minor's Gold
AZ Killer Bees
The Next Level
Courage
AZ Hot Shots Gatti
Wichita Mustangs
Beverly Bandits
So Illinois Force
Texas Impact Gold
Virginia Shamrocks
Texas Glory
OC Batbusters
Texas Eclipse
New Jersey Intensity
New Jersey Inferno
New Jersey Breakers
NW Bullets
Houston Power
So Cal Breakers
Colorado Stars
Texas Magic
Tampa Mustangs
Cal Lite
California Raiders
San Diego Renegades
California Grapettes
Combat Panthers
Carolina Cardinals
Northwest Blaze
Corona Angels Magee
New Mexico Sundancers
Houston Power Krysiak
Texas Sudden Impact
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The format for the qualifying tournament will include a double-elimination bracket to decide the berths. There may or may not be pool games based on the preference of the local area tournament director, if there are pool games they will not be used in any manner to influence the elimination bracket which will be populated by a draw done with the teams presence.

The format for the National Championship will be 3 pool games and double-elimination, the pool games are not for seeding into the bracket.


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http://premiergirlsfastpitch.com/tournaments.html
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Can I just take a moment and tell you all how freakin' excited I am that I get to see these teams play in August.  Might have to take off a few days since the tourney ends on the Saturday, but it will be well worth it.
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So, is this after Gold Nationals or in lieu of?
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So, is this after Gold Nationals or in lieu of?
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After...so some teams are choosing one while a couple are doing both

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Good article on the 'split' in 18U softball
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Shouldn't the premier national be called an invitational since over 65% of teams did not have to qualify? 

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On website there are a lot of colleges that are planning to attend!
Looks like this will be the WHOS WHOS of softball! I can't wait for the Draw to see who will be playing who. I think the Championship game will be standing room only.

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No DD at this level anymore but can't wait to cheer the teams on.


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I was looking at a few of the 16u teams and noticed that there are somethat just played at the 18u in Hemet.
            I wonder if that will make them the ones to beat at 16u.


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I was looking at a few of the 16u teams and noticed that there are somethat just played at the 18u in Hemet.
            I wonder if that will make them the ones to beat at 16u.

In a real championship, the team would be ineligible for 16u and would have to play 18u, but I guess this is not a real championship but an invitational tournament.

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the team would be ineligible for 16u and would have to play 18u

Different organizations.  First was ASA, now premier.  Age group has nothing to do with "invitational" vs "championship.

Done all the time in the younger age groups when teams play up in AFA, NSA, USSA, etc and then play their "real" age for the ASA tourneys.

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Can't wait! Almost here.....
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I would think that there will be a lot of young softball players and their families watching the games at the Premier Tournament.  All of the nationals will be over so the local softball players will be home, and with no entrance fee it will certainly be a great opportunity to watch some of the best softball teams in the country. Who cares if it is an Invitational, these are the best teams in the country, though a handful of the best players are in Columbia representing the USA on the Jr. National Team.  The one thing that this tournament doesn't have to worry about is rain delays! 
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These games will be televised?  Any TV schedule published?
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the team would be ineligible for 16u and would have to play 18u

Different organizations.  First was ASA, now premier.  Age group has nothing to do with "invitational" vs "championship.

Done all the time in the younger age groups when teams play up in AFA, NSA, USSA, etc and then play their "real" age for the ASA tourneys.

In all those other organizations, teams earn their berths.  Only premier invites 73% or their teams who do not earn their way as all the other organizations require.

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Not really completely true.........my daughters played in ASA and when teams pulled out of the ASA Nationals they replaced them with some of the local teams in the area.  Those teams never qualified.  Some ASA qualifiers in different parts of the country at different age groups didn't have enough participants so if you registered and paid you got the berth.  Yes, Premier is more invitational than qualified but many of the invited teams were the top finishers in ASA Gold nationals the last few years.  Not sure why you are so against this tournament.  It made ASA listen, they didn't allow college players this year, they shortened the touranment and they changed the venue.  A few of the things that the travel ball coaches have been asking for the last few years.  ASA nationals was only televised once a few years ago........this brand new tournament will have some of it televised by ESPN.  Good for the sport to have this caliber of softball teams get some attention on T.V.

The weather this week is going to be beautiful and if a team is out of the tournament, let's say 2 and bbq, well they can head down to the beach, or Disneyland, or Knott's Berry Farm, or spend some time shopping at some of the local malls near the fields. 


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Only premier invites 73% or their teams who do not earn their way as all the other organizations require.

I'm not involved in PGF other than having a DD who will be playing this week.  I do think that ASA needed a wake up call and, unfortunately (or fortunately some might think) it took someone to create an alternative.

There is quite a bit of discussion, including posts from Gary Haning here:


My impression is that he needed to invite enough teams to insure that there would be a tournament.  The number of invitees will decrease every year.  My guess is that if it is well run, there is good ball and everybody has a good time and people watch it on ESPN, it will be around for a while.

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"“There will be either six 4 team qualifiers or four 6 team qualifiers. One will be in Indiana, one will be in Texas, one will be in California, other(s) to be determined. 18 teams will be invited from California, no limits will be placed on other parts of the country until the tournament moves to another part of the country. The tournament will be in So Cal for at least 2 years, probably 3 years with invitations to other areas to host it after the second year. "

If their were to only be 18 invited teams from California and you add three teams from the qualifier (as one was from AZ), then how do you end up with 32 teams from California?  This is why I have a problem with this being called a National Championship.  It is a National Invitational Only that got watered down by a fill ins. 

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          "2010 ESPN Rise National Championship/Premier"

Go Argue with ESPN on what they should call this tournament.
They own the rights I guess ESPN can call it whatever they want.



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No matter how you slice it with 113 teams in attendance and 93 colleges represented this is one heck of an impressive event for its first year.

When I think of all the horrible places we went during the summer for championships I can think of no venue that comes anywhere near as nice as Huntington Beach.  Nada, bupkis, zippo.  And, if you're going to get in a plane anyway, what's the difference if you're flying 2 hours or 4 hours to get there?  Having these championships in So. Cal will probably reduce the number of total player flight hours dramatically.

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So why don't they just call it the....

  "2010 ESPN Rise California Championship/Premier"

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Has anybody even looked at the teams that are attending? Except for the teams that can't attend because of money, kids starting school, it looks like Gold Nationals every year. Nationals is about competition and playing the best teams. Bottom line is Premier is the better Nationals. Better teams,better venue,better schedule,weather from 75-80,tons of things to do when not playing. Overall it's what everyone has wanted in a Nationals for a LONG TIME.  


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Hey...knock it off!!!  Quit being so rational and realistic!!!

It gets in the way of the naysayers!!!  


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Hey...knock it off!!!  Quit being so rational and realistic!!!

It gets in the way of the naysayers!!!  



Opening Ceremonies went off really well. Right on the beach at the US Open Surf Grandstands. About an hour and a half and the girls were still having fun at the end dancing up on the stage with the Polynesian dancers, flame and knife throwers,etc. Every out of state team I spoke with absolutely loved it.

Next year, ESPN Rise National Championship is expecting to host the 14U, 16U and High School Divisions and it will be held the same week as ASA. Teams will have to make a choice, not really anything wrong with that. Each to its own.

True there were many invites this year but I don't see any other way to get the PGF rolling. I think that more and more teams will join in next year. ESPN has given it credibility and they say they are in it for the long haul and would love to see it televised just like Little League. We can only hope since it would be great for the game of softball. The High School division will be televised live this Saturday at 5:00pm PST on ESPNU. Friday, they will be televising 16U games from Bill Barber on ESPN3. Next year, I believe they are hoping to show all the Championship games on ESPNU/ESPN2 and many more games on ESPN3. For all the naysayers, what is wrong with the game of softball being promoted.

Next year, the number of invites will go down and the number of qualifiers will go up. As any new venture, it takes time to build and with the support of ESPN, and all the top teams in the West and Texas, I guess we will see how well Premier does. I give credit to Gary Haning and crew (Don Minard, Bruce Richardson, Dan Hay, Bill Conroy, et all) for taking on this rather large task and putting a big target on their backs. I doubt they are losing any sleep over those who don't feel that this is a "real national championship", Just ask the 1800+ girls who were at the fields this morning and at the beach this afternoon.

As for ASA, they have done so much for the game of softball but, in the end, they stopped listening to their constituents and thus the beginning of Premier. No harm done, just another choice. I congratulate all the teams at ASA Gold Nationals and hope they had a wonderful experience. There were some great teams there. Congrats to the East Cobb Bullets on winning their first ASA Gold Championship. Spingola is the real deal.

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Have heard from many...sooo many...of the kids....they loved it!!!

Still trying the HULA........they seemed to have had a blast!!

Very cool!!!
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Just like ASA:



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The live scoring is not good.

At least it has been horrible for our games.  Freezes up, and innaccurate but that could be partly the human entering the data.
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The live scoring is not good.

At least it has been horrible for our games.  Freezes up, and innaccurate but that could be partly the human entering the data.

It is awful. Especially since I haven't been able to find any sort of stats during the games. Play by play is hard to follow as well


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