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Lost_1

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Over 5 million jobs available.  Not sure what more you want an Obama Administration to do.  But I'll listen if anyone offers up some ideas.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/09/news/economy/america-5-6-million-record-job-openings/




You should really go and read that link.


The college track for everyone has killed the skilled trades.

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I was hoping the guy who suggested Americans must work two fast food jobs would read the link.  I know it was just an Obama jab, but still.  Readers need to know much of the stuff they read here about this President is partisan and inaccurate.

Edit:  But if you want to tell me what Obama should do, I'm listening.
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I expect many states are also happy with these increases because they will recruit NY and CA businesses to move.


The majority are running from the libtards and coming to Texas

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You should really go and read that link.


The college track for everyone has killed the skilled trades.


That is a good link with great knowledge about why they can't find applicants.  I doubt dewy understands coming from a party where they think everyone should go to college.

EX:

Experts argue that some students who go to 4-year colleges are better suited for a vocational career. And as the number of students going to college has increased to 20 million today from 15 million in 2000, the number of apprentices has dwindled, down by half between 2002 and last year, government statistics show.

america bridge jobs skills gap

Many jobs require some skills but not a 4-year college degree. There's a lack of qualified workers available for vocational jobs like electricians and plumbers.


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Related

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/31/news/economy/mexico-us-globalization-wage-gap/index.html?iid=ob_article_footer&iid=obinsite

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You should really go and read that link.


The college track for everyone has killed the skilled trades.



I need a Journeyman, and an apprentice electrician now, and all I can find are roughnecks coming out of the oil field. Really, I picked up two the other day, and I'm starting them from the ground up. I need qualified people, but nobody thought about learning a trade when they all thought they would be rock/rap stars, or pro athletes. Now they get to do what they should have done at age 16-18. Of course they have kids and bills now, but I guess they will figure out how that works in time as well.

Talked to another guy with an associates degree the other day, but he had no trade experience, and was working at a quick lube place hoping for a job to magically appear.

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See if we just gave everyone free college it would solve everything. Oops wait a minute.
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Lost_1

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Woody,

I see this almost everyday, from the customers that I call on, family (FIL - owns A/C company, Brother - Contractor, BIL - Owns trucking company) At least one of them is always looking for qualified workers. I have a cousin in northern Missouri, her & her husband own a concrete finishing company they can't keep help that wants to work. I field trial with a guy who builds outdoor patios & fireplaces, he can't keep helpers even though they train and move up, last I heard a mason made dang good money.


Industries across the board have been sounding this alarm for over a couple decades, but it has gone unheeded by those in charge.

Under Clintons' education reform " Goals 2000" graduation requirements started to tighten. Teaching in a vocational training center, we had to start aligning our curriculum to the local high schools. To keep enrollment we had to prove, where the school would accept, we taught math & science and match up with the standards from the sending high school.

No Child Left Behind Bushs' debacle of education reform once again raised graduation requirements. NCLB placed the success of the student directly on the shoulders of the administration/school. Many marginal students were shuffled off to vo-tech or in the large metro area schools were dropped completely. I know several that succeeded in spite of the treatment from their local high school.

Now we are seeing Obamas' 'Race To the Top" & Common Core double down on Bushs' NCLB failed policies, except RTP suddenly shifts the success/failure directly to the individual teacher. Believe me I'm no supporter of NEA but you can't lay the failure of education solely at the feet of teachers unions, there is plenty of blame to go around. Grab a high school text book and type a couple paragraphs into a reading level calculator, there are many online, you will be surprised at the low level they are written on.

Federal education reforms in the last couple decades has completely missed the boat, and we are seeing this across the board. The percent of new college freshman taking remedial classes, those that don't count towards graduation but are still paid for raising student debt. The skilled trades either have to resort to private trade schools, there is a welding school in almost every mid-sized city, or reverting back to a form of the apprenticeship programs of old.

The current education reform experiment will push another generation towards failure.



Edit: Clarify a sentence

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Industries across the board have been sounding this alarm for over a couple decades, but it has gone unheeded by those in charge.


So, it's no wonder why people don't want Rubio or Cruz or Hillary........

And, it's no wonder why the establishment is fighting so hard to cheat Trump and his voters out of the election.......
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If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'

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probably not Joe Montana

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

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So, it's no wonder why people don't want Rubio or Cruz or Hillary........

And, it's no wonder why the establishment is fighting so hard to cheat Trump and his voters out of the election.......


How do you think Trump is being cheated? The rules are the same for everyone.
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How do you think Trump is being cheated? The rules are the same for everyone.


Trump supporters are Grubered and snookered [I read Twitter like mikec does and I see what he sees]

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This will give Trump the perfect opportunity to bail out of the race and save face since he never intended for his circus act to go this far. 
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LA unions call for exemption from $15 minimum wage they fought for

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/12/los-angeles-15-dollar-minimum-wage-unions

Same people who pushed for the $15 minimum are now asking for an exemption.

Progressive Union Vomit



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FIB - it's a way for the hotel unions to force those hotels not already in the union to join. The democratic party is owned by the unions.
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Rant.  [wink]
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No, truth. Own it
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Rant.  [wink]
wow

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If our immigration laws are enforced, and there is a massive exodus of Mexicans and Central Americans, things are going to be very different for Employers, Employees, and those that suck off the teat. Instead of some Leftist demanding employers give a certain dollar number for minimum wage employees, employers will be raising wages to attract good employees. If you have stopped looking for work, or if you have been living off the UE Benefits since pre 2000, or if you are magically disabled and sucking off the teat, we have a job for you. Wages will rise as Americans reenter the job market. Construction costs will rise proportionally. Just like buying Cheap Stuff from China, employing illegal aliens has kept construction prices low, but suppressed wages. Instead of exporting a manufacturing job to China, the unemployed get to watch their replacement doing their job for half to two thirds the cost. Think of the millions, and millions of jobs that would become available. There would be some serious jobs training programs, and they wouldn't be government sponsored crap, but real company sponsored programs. It would be a tough deal for employers, and consumer prices will increase, but so will wages, and GDP.
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Amazing what Trump's wall will do for us.......Just amazing!

And, true as it can be......
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Interesting article on Trump's "wall".

http://www.citylab.com/work/2016/03/lets-say-trump-wins-would-anyone-design-his-border-wall/472065/

Do you really think Congress is going to approve a wall?

"It would take an act of Congress to clear the many obstacles to building a Great Wall. That’s one way to guarantee the Corps’ involvement. Congress has the power of the purse to authorize the Corps to take action and the appropriation power to fund that action."

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Amazed by how many progressive's are hedging on this mandatory $15 gambit. Even Clinton isn't committed, as Bernie dug down on her last night. Smart people realize it's not a good thing to jump to $15 and that it will have a deleterious impact. Even Vox came out on the negatives.
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Agreed FIB.  I'm also interested to learn more about some unions getting a waiver from having to raise their minimum wage to $15.  Would love to hear a democratic response to that.
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The waiver is reasonable if the total compensation (i.e. wages + benefits) is greater than $15/hr. IMO, the minimum wage law should be structured that way, which would make the waiver moot.
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I have always been of the opinion that one's pay is directly related to one's value to an employer, not a union. It really is troubling to me that so many people have no worth, or value to an employer. They have no skills, nothing to provide incentive to an employer to actively recruit, or have any reason to insure that they don't leave the company. These people are just bodies, and have little if anything unique about themselves that would urge an employer to give them anything other than the very lowest wage they could. They are adults, and they are just bodies. Numbers on a spread sheet. No marketable skills, just another low level individual that can be replaced tomorrow morning without the company skipping a beat, or even noticing. Don't like that harsh assessment? Then get a marketable skill, set yourself apart from the lowest common denominator, or be another body, just another number asking Socialist masters to give you a few more scraps from there plantation big house table.
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woody, I see you have met half of my crew.  #2moreyears
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Heh Heh, I feel your pain. I just hired a another body that starts Monday AM.
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[idea]  From the fence...

Offering a political compromise:

Minimum wage to $20/hr. However, earner must be an American citizen.

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Why stop at $20? Why not $35-50/hour? There is an answer and another question in there.
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The standard lib argument to that is $50+ is nonsense. They can't tell you why or how $15 is magic other than that's what they say is right.
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