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keepinitreal

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I support $15 an hour minimum over time also.  The year 2121 the minimum wage should be $15, mark me down supporting only $14.99 until that time. 
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Baseball players, teachers, police officers, and auto workers all have minimum wage levels.  There's nothing wrong with that and there's nothing wrong with minimum hourly wage levels for American workers.


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Dewey, do you consider a job like flipping burgers, that used to be an after school job for high school students, a long term career for an adult?
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woody - Do you believe in a minimum wage?
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I believe in a minimum wage.  Most $15/hr minimum wage proposals get there over time.  I think I can support most of those but I would be open to those who aimed at a different number.  Before we can negotiate a number, we need to agree there should be a minimum wage.   


I don't agree.  The beauty of a free-market system is that wages and prices find the proper level on their own.  Someone who is only will to pay $6 per hour is going to get nobody to work there or is going to have a lousy product or service.
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pabar - I'll put you down as not favoring a minimum wage of any amount.
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I don't agree.  The beauty of a free-market system is that wages and prices find the proper level on their own.  Someone who is only will to pay $6 per hour is going to get nobody to work there or is going to have a lousy product or service.


This is a tough concept for some on the left to grasp.
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Tyler - Are you against a minimum wage of any amount?  If not, where is your number?
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Tyler - Are you against a minimum wage of any amount?  If not, where is your number?

Where is your number Dewey? I can't find it in this thread, just a lot of waffling on it...
keepinitreal

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We elect Representatives to research and determine these kind of answers.


PDAD come on man, dewy will wait to be told when to wipe his ass. It's the politicians job to set the minimum wage

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Tyler - Are you against a minimum wage of any amount?  If not, where is your number?


Isn't this just one of the inherent problems with a minimum wage?  If $15 is your number, how about $15.01?  $15.02?
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One of the MANY problems IMO.
Dewey

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OK, I'll give my number but I doubt that it will get others to say if they are for or against a minimum wage.  That's the main point here.  After that, we could work out the number.  I'd like to see $10/hr with a cost of living plus $.25 raise each year.  After 20 years, only cost of living increase.  Just sounds like a reasonable approach to me.
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OK, I'll give my number but I doubt that it will get others to say if they are for or against a minimum wage.  That's the main point here.  After that, we could work out the number.  I'd like to see $10/hr with a cost of living plus $.25 raise each year.  After 20 years, only cost of living increase.  Just sounds like a reasonable approach to me.


Thanks for giving us that number.  Now, should that vary between San Francisco and Fayetteville?
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OK, I'll give my number but I doubt that it will get others to say if they are for or against a minimum wage.  That's the main point here.  After that, we could work out the number.  ...

I know you outlined that plan in an earlier post, however YOU asked TD for a number. smh
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pabar - That would be a Federal number.  Cities and States can increase as they please.
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OK, I'll give my number but I doubt that it will get others to say if they are for or against a minimum wage.  That's the main point here.  After that, we could work out the number.  I'd like to see $10/hr with a cost of living plus $.25 raise each year.  After 20 years, only cost of living increase.  Just sounds like a reasonable approach to me.


Good grief, do you realize what this will do to small businesses. the cost of everything will go up 50%. businesses will go out of business and people that are not worth $15 a hour will not have a job . they will then go on public assistance.
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It takes 20 years to get to $15, not counting inflation.
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The value of an employee is measured by their worth to an employer. The minimum wage is like welfare for the inept. If you have no skills, no talents, then you are a body, a number. You are worth whatever an employer would hand you. Don't like it? Develop a skill set, and get paid. Anybody know any good electricians in the Houston area? I'm scouring the area, but all I can find are unqualified laborers (bodies). Starting wage for beginner helpers is $14-15, advanced apprentices $16-22, and Journeymen $24-30. As an employer, I pay people based on their value to my company, not what some Liberal thinks is FAIR.

Dewey decided on $10, but can't formulate an answer as to why $10 is the correct number. Feelings, nothing more than feelings. Sing along now.

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keepinitreal

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Buccee's pays 10.50 to start
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And up to $14.25. Think I may walk away from the stress, take the Bucees maintenance job, and suck off the DNC teat.

Dewey, are you going to fund my trip to Vegas or not?, I feel entitled and all. Do I have to appeal to the DNC for the check? I mean, it's only fair that taxpayers provide for me, right?

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keepinitreal

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Buccee's out near me employs well over 100.  Their Texas BLT is worth paying all those high school grads $11 an hour to clerk and keep the coffee flowing
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The one by my place is full of local kids and retirees earning a buck. $12.50 an hr= $100 a day= 500 wk x say 50= 25K a year - $6300 personal exemption for a single filer= $18,700 taxable income x 15%= $2805 + $975 = $3780 in taxes or roughly 15.5% of the original 25K not counting a 2% penalty for not carrying insurance. Hey, that sounds like the same rate or more than Bernie the Socialist paid on 205K. 
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FTR, $6300 is the standard deduction and the personal exemption is $4k, for a total of $10,300.

Do you think Buc-cees pays better than their industry? If so, it sounds like In-N-Out Burger, which is also privately held.
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Buccee's does pay better than the industry
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Buccee's does pay better than the industry

Thanks KIR. I suspect being privately held is a factor.
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Not just privately held, but very intense marketing and product placement and pricing. I've heard Arch Aplin interviewed on local radio, and he is genuine. Sells 20lb bags of ice for .99c a bag, and grocery store prices for beer, and gas for cheap to get you in the door. Massive billboard advertising, huge spotless restrooms cleaned every 15 minutes. Fully automated Deli serving just about everything via touchscreen, and huge Texas style gift shop, local sports team apparel,  BBQ grilles, deer feeders and parts, deer corn. It's a Redneck haven, and he deserves to be recognized for his ability to read the market he is in. I had heard that during the first Obama term that his lenders were trying to discourage his plans to open more locations. Sit it out so to speak. He doubled down, and you can hardly find a parking spot on a 4 acre lot. If you are ever in Texas, go to one of the large travel centers. It's pretty amazing.
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woody nailed it as always.  I have always been amazed at the gas [.20 below nearby competetors, deisel less than gas prices often] and "grocery store prices for beer" prices and any size 1.29 coffee refills.  They make up for it on their sandwich, jerky and food pricing but there is nothing in the store that isn't delicious, even the Wasabi peas
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Originally Posted by keepinitreal
woody nailed it as always.  I have always been amazed at the gas [.20 below nearby competetors, deisel less than gas prices often] and "grocery store prices for beer" prices and any size 1.29 coffee refills.  They make up for it on their sandwich, jerky and food pricing but there is nothing in the store that isn't delicious, even the Wasabi peas


Yep Woody did nail that. American entrepreneurship at its best. Now we have too many govt-subsidized 'owners' saddled with lazy and uneducated workers. Many of our citizens now think that the way things are, is the way that they have to be. They think that the 'good old days' of American pride in workmanship and personal accountability are gone. I'm an optimist. I think our best days are just up around the bend. And the first step to recovery is to be able to call a spade a spade in this country. Or in other words, to be able to call a welfare-state a welfare-state. And then to fix the problem. We need some tough love and we need to cut off the free rides. And deport all illegals. Men, women, children, students, anchor babies, brain surgeons.....they ALL have to go. Come back the right way or stay gone.

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