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I was told by a pitching coach yesterday that there is a girl in the midwest (I think he said in Illinois) that will be 2010 graduate that is the next "big one".  Apparently this freshman to be has touched the 70mph mark on several times this winter and will be trying to make the "leap" to ASA Gold ball this year.  This guy would not tell me who she will be playing for, but only that she is more mature for her age and farther along than anyone he had worked with....and this guy has been around for a while.

 

Anyone heard anything about a young kid like this?

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The only one I have heard about is Kenzie Fowler out of Tucson. 


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this guy has been around for a while

 

Did this guy wear monogramed shirts with the initials, "G.P."?


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MsMac - Is that the freshman (last year) kid out of Canyon del Oro HS?
They lost in the state final this year 1-0, but this kid is supposed to be special. She has 3 more years to prove just how special - and she's a fine student.

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The only kid I have heard of like this is Kaley Coonce.  She was an 8th grader  this year from Goreville, Il.  Reports I have heard from Southern Illinois this year is that she was throwing 68 mph.  She has a older sister that just left the University of Illinois softball program after her freshman year. 

 

This kid has the chance to be special, if no one screws her up.

 

If the rumor is true that she is going to gold ball then she will most certainly play for the Illinois Southern Force Gold team.  That is the team that her sister Kacey played for and her father and Gerry Glasco (SF coach) get along very well.


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MsMac - Is that the freshman (last year) kid out of Canyon del Oro HS?
They lost in the state final this year 1-0, but this kid is supposed to be special. She has 3 more years to prove just how special - and she's a fine student.

Frank,

 

She's the one.  She's already 5'11" and is only 14 or 15.  Her mom was the coach at CDO High School and stepped down in what is in my opinion is a very classy move. 

 

 

"Kenzie Fowler last week was clocked with a 69 mph fastball, and regularly throws in the 65-67 mph range. How fast is that? Three-time UA All-American Alicia Hollowell tops out at about 67 mph. Wildcat legend Jennie Finch is at about 70 mph.
"Selfishly, I didn't want to let go. That's the coach in me,'' said Kelly Fowler, a winner of 50 games in her two seasons at CDO. "But as a mom, I've been coaching Kenzie forever, since she was 5. I don't want to smother her."

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Kenzie is a great person as is the rest of her family--Lance is one of the most knowledgeable coaches out there--he coaches Kenzie's 16u Club team-Desert Thunder and Kelly is the woman who got me into coaching--with those two's guidance and support I have loved coaching Desert Thunder at the 12u level as well as had the time of my life coaching Canyon del Oro this year...Not only did Kenzie hit 70 MPH repeatedly last weekend in Phoenix's 113 degree temps, but she hit .356 this year at CDO and has a 3.8 GPA and took 2 AP classes as a freshman--she is definitely the next big one (however she's caused quite a stir already!) We can only imagine what her talent has in store for her.
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AZBCEAGLE,

I knew after I read what her mom had done that this kid was from great stock.  Thanks for the extra insight.  She is one I will continue to follow throughout her high school career and into college.  Special ones like this only come along so often. 


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3.8 GPA and took 2 AP classes as a freshman

Frank, I know what you are thinking, but... "You'va" gotta admit, Stanford would be a better fit.   


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Bill - Interesting because that was my first thought, but a man can hope, can't he? Either would fit my criteria. I'd bet my bottom dollar though that she winds up in neither.
Can you spell "homie" with red and blue crayons?

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"Kenzie Fowler last week was clocked with a 69 mph fastball, and regularly throws in the 65-67 mph range. How fast is that? Three-time UA All-American Alicia Hollowell tops out at about 67 mph. Wildcat legend Jennie Finch is at about 70 mph.

 

Besides a fastball, what else does this young lady throw ? Comparing speed for speed doesn't work. Take Kristin Schmidt of LSU who only threw upper 50's very low 60's but had great stuff and spotted her pitches very well. 70 mph is certainly gifted but most girls will need to bring a bit more to the table than their speed. 

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Can you spell "homie"?

 

I set my dome to the task and you are right, there is anorteher viable school. Golden opportunity and we west coasters would be green with envy.

 

Kidding aside, that would be a perfect fit.


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TLogan - Absolutely true, but this bear is a cub albeit a tall one. She has three more years to develope movement and a great change and location (and might have some of that now), all of which you can teach, but you can't teach 70 MPH.
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Word out of Las Vegas last Fall was that Kenzie Fowler was one of the stars of the National Camp put on by the Allisters who run West Coast Softball.  One Pac-10 coach told me that she had the whole package and was spinning the ball just fine.  Also, the coach told me that she hit a homerun against Mike White, who pitches for the camp.  Evidently she is going to be something special

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Since none of us can predict the future I guess we will all just have to wait and see and hope for the best for a young lady who seems like she might have what it takes.  Who knows what might happen over the next 3 years.  Some girls just decide they don't want to play college ball.
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Not the great ones!

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SECLookout/Coach Glasco?? - Come on buddy....give us something a little more than watch the Southern Force and that she's classified as a 13 year old.  I have heard nothing but great things about her and how she will be the "next big thing".  Everyone would love to hear some more details.


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Now Coach Glasco...don't be so modest....I just talked to a guy from Southern Illinois this week who attended the WCWS with me and he told me that you had told him that Coonce was throwing 68-69mph on a regular basis and that she had on more than one occasion hit 70 and even 71mph.  He also said that she will be the Southern Force's number one pitcher this year. 

 

Give her some props and let everyone know about her.....she is truly someone that is apparently gifted and deserves to be discussed.


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Coach Glasco, thanks for posting


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I think this Coonce girl must be the one I had heard about.  The description sounds almost exact.  I mean a girl from Illinois that is throwing 68mph and has touched 70 at least a few times.  I can't imagine there are too many 13-14 years olds that are throwing that hard.  She certainly sounds like someone we should all keep a close eye on.  I'm sure if that is the case and with her playing for a major club like the Southern Force that she should and will draw a tremendous amount of attention, not only this year but for several years to come it would seem.

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Kenzie has a killer rise ball that stuck out the most prominent senior softball player in the state of Arizona in all three at bats in the state tournament, a nasty curve and a drop ball. She is working on developing her screw ball this summer. Her change up is being thrown around 56 mph after a 70 mph fast ball---nasty. Something has to be said for her catcher as well
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TLogan - Absolutely true, but this bear is a cub albeit a tall one. She has three more years to develope movement and a great change and location (and might have some of that now), all of which you can teach, but you can't teach 70 MPH.

 

Then I'll be looking forward to watching these young ladies develop as well during the next few years. 

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Kenzie has a killer rise ball that stuck out the most prominent senior softball player in the state of Arizona in all three at bats in the state tournament, a nasty curve and a drop ball. She is working on developing her screw ball this summer. Her change up is being thrown around 56 mph after a 70 mph fast ball---nasty. Something has to be said for her catcher as well

AZBCEAGLE,

 

Would it be possible for you to post her freshman stats?  I've looked everywhere and can't find any.  Thanks.  She already has more pitches than some college pitchers.  Oh, and props to her catcher.


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Eagle - This kid sounds like what happens when great talent meets outstanding coaching, and the kid is an eager learner with a positive attitude and excellent work ethic. Congratulations are in order all around, and special kudos to Mom who stepped aside so she wouldn't "smother" the kid. Mom must be special, and the apple didn't fall far from the tree it seems.
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Please, please do not post high school stats, the High School ball in AZ especially at the 4A level is way too inconsistent to base an accurate opinion of a player. Let's watch her progress in club ball.

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I would agree in many cases--we played very few "scrappy teams" this year though---striking out 13 against Cactus is a big deal. But yes you are right most of the time---I would normally scoff at high school stats as we all know stats are biased of the conference and talent you play against--in her defense the 4a conference in Arizona is the toughest conference in the state. Mac-- I will send them to you if you wish to view them.
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I would agree in many cases--we played very few "scrappy teams" this year though---striking out 13 against Cactus is a big deal. But yes you are right most of the time---I would normally scoff at high school stats as we all know stats are biased of the conference and talent you play against--in her defense the 4a conference in Arizona is the toughest conference in the state. Mac-- I will send them to you if you wish to view them.

AZBCEAGLE,

 

I would appreciate that.  I know they are skewed but I am still curious.  You can PM them to me if you like.  Thanks


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Kenzie Fowler has gotten much praise and hype in Tucson and I've read alot about her, curious of her progress as well. There are a couple very talented players still in HS in Tucson right now.

 

Heres to hoping she wants to stay in Tucson  

 

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Has either one of them verballed yet???

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Courtney 26 - As always, I hope that these young ladies who are fortunate enough to have the athletic ability to have their educations paid for choose a school commensurate with their academic abilities, one that will afford them an education that will make the next 55 years of their lives easier and more worthwhile for themselves and others.
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