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rocklifter

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   I posed this question to Cathi Aradi and would like to see what some of you here think about this. This is my daughters Junior year, High School season is over. In Georgia, some people suppposedly in the "KNOW" have told us on many occasion that because our daughter hasnt committed to a school that we would not have a chance for a Bigger D1 school or even a competitive D1 school.   I know what Ms Cathi told us, but Im curious as to what many of you think...Also remember we are in Georgia.

 

(Let me say that she wont have a chance at being recruited by a school on that level. I always say we because I feel as if its a family thing. No offense to my daughter.)


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"Our" experience contradicts what you are being told by those "in the know". However, I have also observed that it is not uncommon for major D1 programs (perennial top 25's) to ask for and get commitments from players in their sophmore year. My daughter commited the fall of her senior year to an SEC school and I know of more than a few players who didn't commit to D1 schools until after Gold Nationals the summer between junior and senior years.

My personal belief is that there are WAY more players offering to commit to their dream school than there are coaches asking and this is fueling the perception that programs are recruiting younger and younger players earlier. We don't hear the other stories about players offering to commit to their dream school only to be told there may not be room, or they are welcome to walk on. I know there are those stories out there as well.

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Dont panic yet. There are MANY top schools who haven't finished recruiting for 2008. In fact most have not. You should be seriously talking to several now that it is you daughters junior year. You and your daughter should also be taking unofficial visits to schools she is interested in and are interested in her. This summer make sure she plays against the best competition she can as college coaches want to see how she performs at the top levels.

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Thats pretty much what Cathi said. Thanks for the input..


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First, it depends on your definition of competitive schools. If that only includes the top 25, then you are much more limited.  BUT, are a lot of schools that are competitive,  even if they are not perennial powers.  Second, even if this was your dd's Sr. year, things change during the season (injuries, homesickness,...), that can have the coach out looking for players late in the recruiting season.  Beyond that, if Cathy says so, it prob'ly is so

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Regarding early commits.  It appears that a lot of 08s have verballed, and have done so by taking unofficial visits.  My question is how much money are the college coaches expecting the parents to spend to take their DDs on unofficials.  Is it inappropriate to tell a coach that you are extremely interested but cannot afford the trip across the country.  Yes, I know it is an investment in their future, but often times the coach isn't really serious about recruiting the athlete.  Everyone seems to be in a rush at the expense of the parent. 
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Isn't that the truth?  Unofficial visits are a great boon to the coach's recruiting budget.  Because now the parents are paying.  I think that you would have to have a very strong indication that this trip was going to be worth your while before taking it.  We did use one unofficial visit on our recruiting path.  But it was a car ride away.  And it was right before her senior year.  These early commits are hard on everybody.  You would have to be quite certain of your 'blue chip' status before making many of these trips.  Especially early and if they are expensive.

On a related note, I heard of a practice a year or so ago where coaches did not pay for the prospect's airfare but said it would be paid back if the recruit committed.  So, if you went and didn't like it, it was on your dime.  Have others run into this?

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Regarding early commits.  It appears that a lot of 08s have verballed, and have done so by taking unofficial visits.  My question is how much money are the college coaches expecting the parents to spend to take their DDs on unofficials.  Is it inappropriate to tell a coach that you are extremely interested but cannot afford the trip across the country.  Yes, I know it is an investment in their future, but often times the coach isn't really serious about recruiting the athlete.  Everyone seems to be in a rush at the expense of the parent. 
If it's the truth that you can't afford it or can't afford at this time, be honest IMO.  I believe you are free to call them in your DD's junior year, so talk with them (They can't call you- eventhough text messaging is common).  See what you can find out over the phone before deciding to make the trip.  If they are willing to indicate a range of money in the offer, you might decide differently about the value of the trip.  Regardless, remember, while money can be a factor, perhaps you might consider the trip as a way to confirm if your DD would even like the school or the education opportunities in her chosen major.  Softball and scholarship should only be a part of it.  
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I have heard of the airfare reimbursement.  My understanding is that the family is reimbursed for the airfare once the official visit is complete....nothing to do with commitment.  I have also heard of a bunch of prospects that would drop a visit 3 days before, which costs the school an airline ticket.  My past experience has been that the ticket was paid for and my DD got on the plane, with some schools handling the itinerary information better than others. 

 

How different is the situation now? 

 

I have seen several players go on unofficials with parents in tow and none of them end up going to that school.   Is this just what is expected now?

 

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Regardless, remember, while money can be a factor, perhaps you might consider the trip as a way to confirm if your DD would even like the school or the education opportunities in her chosen major.  Softball and scholarship should only be a part of it.

 

These girls are 16, maybe 17, and they really know about educational opportunities and a chosen major?  Yes, some do. These are the most important factors in choosing a school, but getting a young student to think this way is often beyond their scope.

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